AMD Ryzen 9 3950X vs Intel Core i9-9900K: The Battle for Mainstream Supremacy

AMD Ryzen 9 3950X vs Intel Core i9-9900K

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Kevin Carbotte is a contributing writer for Tom's Hardware who primarily covers VR and AR hardware. He has been writing for us for more than four years.

  • dorsai
    To me the Ryzen 9 3950x is a case of the hardware being way out in front of the software...it still feels like over kill for the majority of people. For the average gamer running the average mid-tier GPU the Ryzen 3600 makes more sense than these CPUs...but if money is no problem then neither the 3950x or i9-9900k is likely to disappoint.
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  • AlistairAB
    If you build a high end computer, the difference to buy the Ryzen 3950x is less than 10 percent of the total cost of the computer, which is a better way to look at it (the problem with INTEL HEDT and even Threadripper is the total cost is increased by much more than the increase in the CPU cost). It's a no brainer. So no, if you are a gamer, the Ryzen 3950x is still the better option. It's only $250 and you have double the headroom for games lasting the next 5+ years. This is not the 8700k vs 1700x situation where you got a few more cores but lower IPC. The Ryzen 3950x is to the i9-9900k what the 3700x is to the i7-7700k. Double! for almost the same amount of money.
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  • Soaptrail
    How many people who buy HEDT need the extra power?
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  • Chargino
    Intel - 60 billion unpatchable systemic security flaws. AMD - 16. Winner: AMD

    There are no other categories. No one in their right mind should buy Intel CPUs for at least 24 months. Intel has made zero effort to "fix" their chips. Moving hacks from bios into the chip is not a fix. Blocking how one researcher decided to exploit a systemic design flaw is also worthless.

    Tired of reading Intel chip reviews that don't note all of the security flaws and whether they've been fixed for each "new" (cough) processor Intel releases.

    Reviews that do not contain coverage of these extremely dangerous security flaws are flat out dishonest.
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  • xyster
    I thought it was a good quick analysis of the two CPU options.

    Other commenters here make valid points, so I want to add some of my own.

    A few points worth mentioning though:

    1. The 3950x is still not available at common retail stores. Here in Canada, it is still on back-order and even then it is priced at ~$840 USD ($1100 CAD ) + taxes. Conversely, I bought a used 9900K in September for $500 CAD ($380 USD), no taxes added, and picked up a used SLI motherboard for $80 CAD. There are plenty of them for sale online, used and cheap.

    2. RAM for Ryzen is more expensive than RAM for Intel. Having purchased 64-GB of DDR4 RAM, the added cost of 3600mhz Cl14 RAM that the reviewers were using on AMD builds just was not affordable, let alone available. Intel systems were being tested with 3200Mhz RAM, which was far easier to find at a quad 64GB kit, and much more affordable, so that was the route I took. I went with 64GB @ 3200 CL15 and paid $200 USD, used.

    3. Intel includes an iGPU, which is important if you are running two Nvidia GPUs in compute mode. Compute mode is used for machine learning, where the GPUs are not used for video to increase available VRAM. By using the integrated GPU, it's fairly easy to have your twin Titan RTXs doing their thing training an AI model while binge watching Netflix in the background. The Intel chips are also very fast at single-threaded, which is where I personally need speed as my GPUs can handle multi-threaded just fine already.

    4. When it comes to video editing and rendering, my video editing suite is 100% GPU-accelerated, from preview rendering, effects generation, and encoding/decoding. If your software does not support GPU acceleration, OK, but CPU-based rendering is highly inefficient....

    5. I LOVE That AMD has more PCIe lanes available and THREADRIPPER is a beast. --- again, I just wish I could even find one on sale that wasn't price gouging me.
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  • NightHawkRMX
    xyster said:
    2. RAM for Ryzen is more expensive than RAM for Intel. Having purchased 64-GB of DDR4 RAM, the added cost of 3600mhz Cl14 RAM that the reviewers were using on AMD builds just was not affordable, let alone available. Intel systems were being tested with 3200Mhz RAM, which was far easier to find at a quad 64GB kit, and much more affordable, so that was the route I took. I went with 64GB @ 3200 CL15 and paid $200 USD, used.
    Most people buy 16gb kits right now.

    G.skill Ripjaws V 2x8gb 3200mhz CL16 for $60G.skill Ripjaws V 2x8gb 3600mhz CL18 for $65G.skill Ripjaws V 2x8gb 3600mhz CL16 for $70
    The difference between CL16 and CL14 is very marginal at most, so I wouldn't consider $10 more for faster ram significant.

    If you want 32gb, not much changes.

    G.skill Ripjaws V 2x16gb 3200mhz CL16 for $115G.skill Ripjaws V 2x16gb 3600mhz C16 for $135
    Still, not a significant premium for 3600mhz.

    Even look at 64gb kits.

    G.skill Ripjaws V 4x16gb 3200mhz CL16 for $235G.skill Ripjaws V 4x16gb 3600mhz CL18 for $255
    If you want 4x16gb 3600mhz C16 you will have to pay nearly $100 more.
    https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hFdrxr/gskill-trident-z-neo-64-gb-4-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16q-64gtznc
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  • bit_user
    They might as well have compared it with a i9-9900KS. Forget what the list price says - the going rate for both chips is about the same.

    Anyway, given how well the 3700X with PBO manages, in some benchmarks, it's a pity they didn't include the 3800X.

    I was quite surprised at how well the Ryzen 3k family did in single-threaded rendering performance. Do we know why? Is it down to larger cache sizes? It's a pity that dominance didn't seem to carry over to virtually any other single-threaded tasks.

    Finally, I wouldn't declare an overall winner. The article is clear that it really depends on what you need it for. And, for most people, the i7-9700K and 8-core Ryzen 3000's are a far better deal.
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  • bit_user
    @kcarbotte the first table is messed up. It seems a column heading is missing for MSRP, because all the other headings are shifted by one. And whatever went under iGPU seems to have been cut off.

    BTW, it's nice to see more of your articles. Happy Holidays!
    🎅
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  • Loadedaxe
    The problem here is the 3950x is not available. And when it is, they sell between $900-1100 bucks. So unless AMD can get a grip on availability, Intel wins here.

    For now, the 3950x is a ghost chip.
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  • NightHawkRMX
    Amazon has them in stock for retail price It's just very off and on.
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