AMD To Develop Semi-Custom Graphics Chip For Intel

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  • samer.forums
    :( shame on you AMD .. dont give intel GPU advantage ever.
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  • hannibal
    This seems more like amd is selling gpus to Intel devices. So Intel make the cpu and amd make the gpu and Intel clue these together in their factories.
    First I was thinking that Intel Also make the gpu, but the gpu would be designed by amd. That would have been the fastest and most effient amd gpu ever, because it would have been made by Intel, but now it seems that Global foundries makes the gpu and Intel make the rest, so the gpu will suffer the same problems as all amd products at this moment. The proses does not like high frequences...
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  • derekullo
    20348421 said:
    :( shame on you AMD .. dont give intel GPU advantage ever.

    AMD must be in a desperate need for cash.

    Just the mentioning of this sent AMD's stock up 8%.

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  • Eximo
    Vega architecture as being produced is designed as a low power chip. It doesn't demonstrate great performance per watt on the high end because it wasn't really meant for that. This is coming from a company that basically swore they weren't going to compete in the high end market a few years ago. Clearly they know where the profits really come from and it isn't big desktop graphics cards.

    Should be quite good I would think. Hopefully they make it into a few NUCs, I would buy one just to mess with it.
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  • derekullo
    20348513 said:
    Vega architecture as being produced is designed as a low power chip. It doesn't demonstrate great performance per watt on the high end because it wasn't really meant for that. This is coming from a company that basically swore they weren't going to compete in the high end market a few years ago. Clearly they know where the profits really come from and it isn't big desktop graphics cards.

    Should be quite good I would think. Hopefully they make it into a few NUCs, I would buy one just to mess with it.

    I beg to differ on where the profits are.

    If AMD can make a graphics card that is more efficient in mining ethereum than a Geforce 1070 they literally won't be able to keep them in stock.

    Miners will buy as many as they can produce.

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  • AnimeMania
    I find this interesting because when the graphic processors were part of the CPU they shared the same memory. Now that the graphic processors are separated from the CPU they have their own high speed memory. This should make an impressive leap in laptop graphics performance without increasing thickness.
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  • redgarl
    20348533 said:
    20348513 said:
    Vega architecture as being produced is designed as a low power chip. It doesn't demonstrate great performance per watt on the high end because it wasn't really meant for that. This is coming from a company that basically swore they weren't going to compete in the high end market a few years ago. Clearly they know where the profits really come from and it isn't big desktop graphics cards.

    Should be quite good I would think. Hopefully they make it into a few NUCs, I would buy one just to mess with it.

    I beg to differ on where the profits are.

    If AMD can make a graphics card that is more efficient in mining ethereum than a Geforce 1070 they literally won't be able to keep them in stock.

    Miners will buy as many as they can produce.

    Polaris is already a huge mining. Putting more GPU for miners is not a good strategy. AMD knows that and the market will fluctuate depending on the values of these cryptocurrencies, however AI, Infinity Fabric and EMIB are the future.

    Intel just understood how much AMD Infinity Fabric is a huge idea. It can reduce significantly the cost of production of complex chips with more simple ones and use the best technology available from third parties for different aspects, like GPU.

    This is nothing more than good news, it means Intel is trusting AMD Vega core to be the best options for their project.

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  • madmatt30
    Its a good move for amd essentially even taking into account Intel are their primary 'enemy' .

    They get their GPU soc into Intel low power laptops & also get their own entire soc into up & coming laptops running raven ridge (which looks in all honesty to have blinding specs for the power requirements)

    They'll make money on virtually every device sold whether it be an intel or an amd CPU based one.

    Its a win win situation.

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  • derekullo
    20348640 said:
    20348533 said:
    20348513 said:
    Vega architecture as being produced is designed as a low power chip. It doesn't demonstrate great performance per watt on the high end because it wasn't really meant for that. This is coming from a company that basically swore they weren't going to compete in the high end market a few years ago. Clearly they know where the profits really come from and it isn't big desktop graphics cards.

    Should be quite good I would think. Hopefully they make it into a few NUCs, I would buy one just to mess with it.

    I beg to differ on where the profits are.

    If AMD can make a graphics card that is more efficient in mining ethereum than a Geforce 1070 they literally won't be able to keep them in stock.

    Miners will buy as many as they can produce.

    Polaris is already a huge mining. Putting more GPU for miners is not a good strategy. AMD knows that and the market will fluctuate depending on the values of these cryptocurrencies, however AI, Infinity Fabric and EMIB are the future.

    Intel just understood how much AMD Infinity Fabric is a huge idea. It can reduce significantly the cost of production of complex chips with more simple ones and use the best technology available from third parties for different aspects, like GPU.

    This is nothing more than good news, it means Intel is trusting AMD Vega core to be the best options for their project.

    Having an efficient GPU doesn't mean it has to be used for mining.

    But if this efficiency translates into more hashes per watt then that is just icing on the cake.

    For comparison:

    http://www.legitreviews.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-vega-56-ethereum-mining-performance_197049

    The hashes per watt picture says it best

    0.18 for Geforce 1070
    0.13 for Vega 56 and Vega 64

    Vega/Polaris is "huge at mining" pulling 32-34 Mh/s but it is also huge at gulping power using 100-160 more watts to achieve the same Mh/s.


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  • Martell1977
    I think HBM2 and AMD's modular construction are major factors in Intel decision. Have to remember that Intel showed a lot of interest in Mantel shortly after it came out.
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