AMD Market Share Gains Accelerate in Desktop PCs, Servers and Notebooks

Paul Alcorn
Editor-in-Chief

Paul Alcorn is the Editor-in-Chief for Tom's Hardware US. He also writes news and reviews on CPUs, storage, and enterprise hardware.

  • redgarl
    It is hard to believe that OEM are still dragging their feet in adopting AMD CPUs. What are they going to do when AMD is on 7nm and Intel on 14nm+++?

    I am still waiting for a laptop with a great IPS screen, a thin form factor and a 2700u/3700u offering. As of now, most of the Ryzen mobile laptops are garbage.
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  • Kaz_2_
    God bless amd. Oem with intel is all about milking
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  • bramahon
    21745340 said:
    As of now, most of the Ryzen mobile laptops are garbage.

    Could you be more precise on that? Is it the configuration, price or drivers? From where I hail, the main issue is availability, with retailers bent on shoving only Intel down the throat of hapless customers.

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  • TJ Hooker
    @bramahon I can't speak for @redgarl, but I've heard a lot of complaints about drivers. Driver distribution was left to OEMs, who by all accounts have been doing a terrible job at making up-to-date drivers available.

    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-responds-ryzen-mobile-drivers,38123.html

    I think there may also be a lack of quality options with AMD parts, and instead they get stuck in cheaper units with low res TN screens, slow HDDs, etc that make them less desirable.
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  • compprob237
    21745622 said:
    21745340 said:
    As of now, most of the Ryzen mobile laptops are garbage.

    Could you be more precise on that? Is it the configuration, price or drivers? From where I hail, the main issue is availability, with retailers bent on shoving only Intel down the throat of hapless customers.

    Most of them are considered "cheap" alternatives to the Intel models. They typically get paired with awful laptop HDDs, low RAM, and get paired with a wimpy mobile GPU. That's probably what they're talking about.
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  • msroadkill612
    The mobile processor is brilliant. Correctly optioned and with proper divers direct from amd, it is unbeatable in the largest segment - sub dgpu mobile.

    There are very good rigs from oems like HP & dell, which allow customising, and amd are taking charge of drivers very soon.

    oems have made getting a KISS good one stock very messy, and the retail sales force seems very incentivised to shift intel inventory to customers.

    Merit won thru for zen desktop DIY and more gradually pre-builts, and it will for mobile, but the same lag factors are even greater.


    Decent graphics are non negotiable on a modern rig. For a road warrior, 4 cores is sufficient, but intel's included graphics don't cut it.

    Add an Nvidia graphics card, and intel is back to being competitive, but at a very different price and power consumption point - but that point's bar will rise hugely in a year or so with 7nm APU mobiles.
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  • newageretrohippy
    @Bramahon Most of the OEMs have used terrible cooling solutions and power management options leading to severe throttling with Ryzen mobile.
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  • mateau
    21745833 said:
    21745622 said:
    21745340 said:
    As of now, most of the Ryzen mobile laptops are garbage.

    Could you be more precise on that? Is it the configuration, price or drivers? From where I hail, the main issue is availability, with retailers bent on shoving only Intel down the throat of hapless customers.

    Most of them are considered "cheap" alternatives to the Intel models. They typically get paired with awful laptop HDDs, low RAM, and get paired with a wimpy mobile GPU. That's probably what they're talking about.

    Actually a couple of years ago I bought the ASUS FX550IU-WSFX laptop from NewEgg. For what I paid for it I have zero complaints. It has the Bristol Ridge AMD Quad Core FX-9830P Processor with a Radeon RX 460 and 1920 x 1080 screen.

    Of course Ryzen is better; faster and more capable. But I find it hard to justify replacing the Asus for something better. Unless of course I can find a laptop that is thinner and lighter. The Asus was also quite a bit lighter than the
    Lenovo W-540 I was schlepping around and the screen is better. My primary reason for an HD laptop was for Autocad Civil 3d in the field, the screen is phenomenal. I also travel a lot internationally and my laptop is essential communications for everything as well as entertainment.

    AMD products are every bit as good as Intel if not better with Radeon on die. They are also cheaper.
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  • BulkZerker
    @compprob237

    That's not completely the case now, the Ryzen laptops are saddled with sub par screens, battery, and likely also using a mechanical HDD (of larger capacity but who cares) compaired to an Intel laptop of the same price range. Which matters way more than if the laptop can play crysis.
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  • Paul Alcorn
    21745692 said:
    @bramahon I can't speak for @redgarl, but I've heard a lot of complaints about drivers. Driver distribution was left to OEMs, who by all accounts have been doing a terrible job at making up to date drivers available.

    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-responds-ryzen-mobile-drivers,38123.html

    I think there may also be a lack of quality options with AMD parts, and instead they get stuck in cheaper units with low res TN screens, slow HDDs, etc that make them less desirable.

    AMD did update its policy here, now it provides drivers directly.

    AMD also addressed recent customer complaints about drivers for existing Ryzen Mobile parts, which currently only come from OEMs. Now all Radeon software updates apply to all Ryzen Mobile Laptops, even the previous-gen Ryzen models. That should allow customers to get their bugfixes and day-zero game drivers directly from AMD as they are released.
    https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-3000-series-picasso-apu-ryzen,38290.html
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