Intel Hyperthreading Bug Unearthed In Kaby Lake And Skylake Processors (Updated)

Update, 6/27/17, 12:00pm PT: Intel responded to our questions with the following:

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  • leoscott
    There's a reason that buying the latest, greatest when it is first released is called bleeding edge.
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  • TJ Hooker
    19865784 said:
    There's a reason that buying the latest, greatest when it is first released is called bleeding edge.
    Skylake has been out for close to two years. Even Kaby Lake is about half a year old. It really isn't "first released" behaviour at this point, and Skylake is in no way bleeding edge.
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  • JamesSneed
    You can look up all the erratas for Skylake this one is the last in the list. Its a rather long list. This was linked in the article the point is there is stuff in here that is nothing to do with bleeding edge, lots of old erratas with no fix.

    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/desktop-6th-gen-core-family-spec-update.html
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  • DookieDraws
    Isn't Haswell also affected by this very same issue?
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  • This may sound weird, but I'm actually happy about this news.

    I've been having problems with Windows 10 hanging almost every day ever since I built a new PC with a Skylake i7 6700K CPU. Despite tons of researching, I never found an explanation for this weird problem, not to mention a solution.

    This news is the first time since long that I've seen something that might be related to my issue. Just thinking that I may finally be able to solve my problem by disabling HT fills me with joy.
    It sucks, but disabling HT is significantly better than buying a new mainboard and CPU.
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  • ammaross
    19866079 said:
    This may sound weird, but I'm actually happy about this news.

    I've been having problems with Windows 10 hanging almost every day ever since I built a new PC with a Skylake i7 6700K CPU. Despite tons of researching, I never found an explanation for this weird problem, not to mention a solution.

    This news is the first time since long that I've seen something that might be related to my issue. Just thinking that I may finally be able to solve my problem by disabling HT fills me with joy.
    It sucks, but disabling HT is significantly better than buying a new mainboard and CPU.

    No, this is very likely not your issue.
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  • ffleader1
    It's kinda funny to think that after 5 years without competitor and just need to copy/paste the same architecture over and over again to make profit, Intel still managed to let a bug happen, on two latest generations.
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  • nzalog
    19865925 said:
    You can look up all the erratas for Skylake this one is the last in the list. Its a rather long list. This was linked in the article the point is there is stuff in here that is nothing to do with bleeding edge, lots of old erratas with no fix.

    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/desktop-6th-gen-core-family-spec-update.html

    Literally all the erratas have no fix.
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  • bigpinkdragon286
    Any chance of Tom's running a few benchmarks before and after the updates to see if performance changes as a result?
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  • jaber2
    This explains why I'm getting such low frame rates
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