Intel Has Allegedly Canceled Its Desktop Meteor Lake 6P+8E CPU

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Intel has canceled a promising configuration of its next-generation Meteor Lake processors for desktops, if a slide presumably from Intel's roadmap published by @OneRaichu is to be believed.

If the information is correct, the company no longer plans to offer 6P + 8E configuration of its Meteor Lake-S CPUs. Still, since it is a leak, it should be considered appropriately and things may change.

The alleged slide, which is heavily redacted, is said to represent Intel's plans for entry-level workstations, desktops, high-end gaming laptops, mainstream laptops, and inexpensive notebooks, through 2026 as of the 18th week of 2023 (early May). A bit that is not redacted purportedly says that Intel intends to 'remove productization' of MTL-S 6P + 8E configuration, which points to socketed desktop parts. 

In recent years, Intel offered CPUs with six high-performance cores and eight energy-efficient cores for high-end notebooks, but not desktops. So not offering this configuration for desktops in 2023 – 2024 is hardly something that's shocking. However, rumor has it that Intel indeed wanted to offer something with such a config, but for some reason decided not to with its Meteor Lake-S lineup.

Intel's Meteor Lake, set to launch sometime in the second half of 2023, will be the company’s first multi-tile design for client PCs, and it will be powered by high-performance Redwood Cove and energy-efficient Crestmont CPU cores. Desktop and laptop CPUs will feature different configurations and will use slightly different pieces of silicon, so perhaps canceling some desktop-oriented SKUs based on laptop silicon makes sense since this cuts down testing that Intel needs to perform to ensure that these processors work fine in the desktop environment.

Meanwhile, a 6P + 8E design, when coupled with appropriate power supply circuitry and cooling, could perhaps offer superior overclockability for high-performance cores, though this thesis cannot be proven given the fact that Intel allegedly canceled this 6P + 8E product for desktops. 

While OneRaichu is a reputable hardware leaker and does not tend to publish fakes, he is of course not an official source of Intel information, so take the slide with a huge pinch of salt. Furthermore, keep in mind that plans do change, so perhaps Intel will change its mind (assuming that the information about canceling of a 6P + 8E silicon for desktops is correct) once again and return this product to its roadmap.

Anton Shilov
Freelance News Writer

Anton Shilov is a Freelance News Writer at Tom’s Hardware US. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.

  • Metal Messiah.
    There is more to this.

    More shocking to hear is that the "Arrow Lake-S" desktop CPU lineup will come in 6+8 die configuration which would be a huge downgrade from the previously expected 8+16 die configuration, assuming these rumors are to be believed.

    This would mean that the Arrow Lake Desktop CPU lineup will MAX out at 14 cores and 20 threads, which is a lot less than the 24 cores and 32 threads (8+16) we get on the Raptor Lake-S desktop CPUs.

    Now all of this suggests that the upcoming Arrow Lake-HX CPUs, which utilize the same die as the desktop SKUs, will also max out at 14 cores and 20 threads.

    But since Arrow Lake is expected to feature a big performance upgrade with its "Lion Cove" P-Cores and "Skymont" E-Cores, will it be enough to warrant a drop in overall core count ? I guess time will tell.
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  • truerock
    To me, 8+0 would be preferable to 6+8

    I'm not interested in low-power-low-performance cores for HEDT PCs
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  • Stesmi
    "In recent years, Intel offered CPUs with six high-performance cores and eight energy-efficient cores for high-end notebooks, but not desktops"

    What about the 13600k? 6P+8E.

    True, the 12600k was 6P+4E, but not the 13600k.

    // Stefan
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  • TerryLaze
    Metal Messiah. said:
    There is more to this.

    More shocking to hear is that the "Arrow Lake-S" desktop CPU lineup will come in 6+8 die configuration which would be a huge downgrade from the previously expected 8+16 die configuration, assuming these rumors are to be believed.
    Did we hear that somewhere?!
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  • Metal Messiah.
    TerryLaze said:
    Did we hear that somewhere?!

    Yes, from the same leaker on Twitter. Though, this isn't official info, so we should exercise some caution here. But this guy has a solid track record when it comes to Intel CPU leaks.

    1660556099660005377View: https://twitter.com/OneRaichu/status/1660556099660005377
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  • Stesmi
    Metal Messiah. said:
    Yes, from the same leaker on Twitter. Though, this isn't official info, so we should exercise some caution here. But this guy has a solid track record when it comes to Intel CPU leaks.

    1660556099660005377View: https://twitter.com/OneRaichu/status/1660556099660005377
    The only thing I'm seeing is that ARL-S will come in a 6+8 die version, Where does it say *only* ?
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  • Eximo
    Agreed. Sounds more like Intel has canceled an intermediate design and is going to stick the original plan with the newer architecture.

    Canceling Meteor Lake because they think they can push Arrow Lake ahead to fill that niche. Which means dropping Meteor lake 6P-8E in favor of Arrow Lake 6P-8E while still leaving Arrow lake 8P-16E intact.
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  • bit_user
    Eximo said:
    Agreed. Sounds more like Intel has canceled an intermediate design and is going to stick the original plan with the newer architecture.
    The original plan was to have Meteor Lake on the desktop. Then, the cancelled it. Then, walked it part-way back and offered a low-end desktop part, and now even that is cancelled. All this dithering sure isn't doing anything to help Intel's credibility!
    Eximo said:
    Canceling Meteor Lake because they think they can push Arrow Lake ahead to fill that niche.
    There's not "pushing". Arrow Lake won't be launching in 2023, no matter what. So, cancelling Meteor Lake-S means their partners don't get to sell any LGA 1851 boards, this year, which they had certainly already invested in developing. That's not good news, for them!

    I sure hope Intel doesn't cancel the Alchemist Refresh! ...or did that already happen, and I just missed it?
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  • bit_user
    Metal Messiah. said:
    More shocking to hear is that the "Arrow Lake-S" desktop CPU lineup will come in 6+8 die configuration which would be a huge downgrade from the previously expected 8+16 die configuration, assuming these rumors are to be believed.
    They could offer multiple compute tiles, or are you saying the large compute tile got cancelled?
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  • Eximo
    Really depends on how different Meteor and Arrow lake are. If they have the designs tested in the engineering sample phase, I don't see why they couldn't spin up the fabs to start making those in late 2023 and early 2024 for a year end release.

    Since the plan is for Raptor Lake refresh end of this year, releasing a new architecture near the same time would kill a lot of those sales. With decreased chip demand to start with, it actually makes a lot of sense.

    Motherboard manufacturers won't have lost much if they haven't gone into mass production. Not like their prototyping work would go to waste.
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