As reported by ComputerBase today, beta BIOSes carrying AMD's AGESA 184.108.40.206 microcode have started to emerge for a few select AsRock and Asus motherboards. As revealed by MSI earlier this month, the new microcode is supposed to bring over 100 improvements for Ryzen CPU owners.
The new BIOSes are designed for Ryzen 3000-series processors only, so you shouldn't upgrade your motherboard's firmware unless you own one of these chips. Furthermore, the BIOSes are currently in the beta phase, so there's no guarantee that they will play nicely with your motherboard. They also still employ the SMU firmware 46.53.00, which isn't surprising as beta BIOSes don't typically use the correct SMU. The final BIOSes will likely use a new SMU firmware.
|ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming X
|ASRock X570 Taichi
|ASRock X470 Taichi
|ASRock X370 Taichi
|ASRock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4
|ASRock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4
|ASRock B450 Pro4
|Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
|Asus ROG Strix X570-F Gaming
|Asus ROG Strix X570-I Gaming
|Asus ROG Crosshair Impact
The firmware for ASRock's motherboards is hosted at German retailer JZ Electronic's website. It's surprising to see that some X470, B450 and even X370 motherboards also got in on the early action. In Asus' case, only its X570 motherboards made the cut.
ComputerBase briefly evaluated the AGESA 220.127.116.11 microcode with a Ryzen 7 3800X processor, ASRock Fatal1ty X470 Gaming K4 mother and 32GB of DDR4-3200 memory with CAS timings of CL14-14-14-34. For its tests, the German publication disabled Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) and enabled the memory's XMP profile. The new microcode seemingly helped improve the processor's all-core boost clock a bit. Under the AGESA 18.104.22.168ABBA microcode, ComputerBase's Ryzen 7 3800X ran at 4,245 MHz across all cores. With the AGESA 22.214.171.124 microcode, the octa-core part was able to hit 4,325 MHz, a 1.9% improvement. ComputerBase noted that the single-core boost for the Ryzen 7 3800X remained at 4,550 MHz.
ComputerBase said that it couldn't find the dedicated overclocking menu or 100-plus improvements in the BIOS. Perhaps the new features will only be available for X570 motherboards.
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Interesting... New improvements all the time... I really thinks that 126.96.36.199 is what should have been the release bios.Reply
AMD desperately trying to avoid that class action lawsuit..Reply
That would be one sorry loss in court for whatever lawyers are stupid enough to try. The turbo frequency isn't guaranteed for Intel or AMD chips. That's why there's a base frequency, and even then there are caveats (such as thermals). Read the fine print.kinggremlin said:AMD desperately trying to avoid that class action lawsuit..
Nothing would ever get launched if you waited until things were perfect. The fact is that the launch BIOS was good enough, performance was (and still is) solid. If you benchmark the new BIOS vs the previous, you'll likely find performance is within the margin of error.hannibal said:Interesting... New improvements all the time... I really thinks that 188.8.131.52 is what should have been the release bios.
Most of the improvements are going to be behind-the-scenes tweaks and bugfixes that nobody will notice. You'll flash it and everything will be the same. That doesn't mean it isn't worth them tweaking their algorithms, but this is a much smaller deal than the peak turbo numbers make it out to be. The AGESA improvements back with Ryzen 1000 were actually more substantial - in many cases it let people hit significantly better memory speeds (with a wider range of memory), which boosted fabric speeds and overall performance by a decent amount on the older design.
alextheblue said:That would be one sorry loss in court for whatever lawyers are stupid enough to try. The turbo frequency isn't guaranteed for Intel or AMD chips. That's why there's a base frequency, and even then there are caveats (such as thermals). Read the fine print.
No more sorry than the 8 core lawsuit again AMD and the 970 lawsuit against Nvidia. And just like those 2 cases, AMD would settle before it ever went to trial, because it isn't worth their time or money to try and win it, along with the likely scenario they would lose resulting in a significantly worse financial outcome for them. If you think no lawyer would take this easily winnable case, then you are living in an alternative universe than the rest of us. If a lawyer will take up a case over $2.12, then a lawyer will take the unatainable boost clock case.
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Ah so this new microcode is only for newest zens, quietly hoped it would also improve things on ryzen 1xxx series but that was just my wishful thinking, oh well. My 1600 sits at 4.0 on all cores anyway so im happy as it is :) good on amd being open about it and releasing such improvements, while intel on another hand nerfs the performance and straight out tells us to turn off hyperthreading in order to be secure enough :rolleyes:Reply
Uh, no. They wouldn't have a leg to stand on - read the fine print. Or at least skim a good article on the matter, AnandTech had one not so long ago.kinggremlin said:If you think no lawyer would take this easily winnable case, then you are living in an alternative universe than the rest of us.