Preventing Ryzen Burnout: Motherboard Makers Issue New Firmware
Most of the major AM5 motherboard vendors have new BIOS downloads ready to limit SoC voltages to safe levels.
Motherboard makers have been swift to respond with firmware updates, now that AMD has released an official statement regarding the worrying spate of ‘Ryzen burn out’ issues. Today we have seen all the major AM5 motherboard partners release or announce mitigating motherboard BIOS updates. Thus, we have statements from the likes of Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, and Biostar to share with you, and we will look at what each vendor has to say about their updates. We will cover these updates in alphabetical order.
Asus AM5 Updates
Asus chose to provide a community update via Twitter, which isn’t surprising, as this firm inconsistently spreads announcements across the main Asus site, Asus ROG, Edge Up, and various random social media channels. Senior Technical Marketing Manager Juan Jose Guerrero reminds us that Ryzen 7000X3D processors don’t allow for CPU ratio or core voltage tuning, but support PBO2 and EXPO. It is these technologies that increase SoC voltage to ensure the processor can cope with the demands asked, stably.
In brief, Asus’s answer is to limit the maximum available SoC voltage to 1.3V. This statement of intent was issued earlier today, and the Asus exec said users should be able to find a new ‘safe’ BIOS with the 1.3V limit “within the next 24 hours.”
Biostar AM5 Updates
Biostar is one of the smaller AMD partners, and it has updates for three motherboards ready to go, the X670E Valkyrie, Racing B650EGTQ, and B650M-Silver. That is the firm’s entire existing lineup, but it has three other AM5 boards in the pipeline.
A news blog post details how Biostar has created a BIOS update that “restricts direct voltage to CPU Vcore Voltage, CPU SOC Voltage, and CPU MISC Voltage.” The intent is to make voltage limit changes “preventing over-voltage and reducing the risk of damage to the 7000X3D series CPUs,” says Biostar. Interestingly, the new BIOS file we checked (X67AE413.BST for the Valkyrie) was nearly two weeks old.
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Gigabyte AM5 Updates
In a news blog post today, Gigabyte says that it has worked closely with AMD to “release the new beta BIOS regarding to the recent concerns of potential motherboard damaged issues with Ryzen™ 7000X3D-series CPUs.” Like the other motherboard makers, Gigabyte says that it has implemented some more restrained SoC voltage settings to reduce the risk of damage. However, it is quick to assert that users will still enjoy “the foremost performance of Ryzen 7000 X3D CPUs.”
Users will find Gigabyte’s beta BIOS downloads for its 23 AM5 series motherboards are available immediately.
MSI AM5 Updates
MSI HQ Technical Marketing chose to make a community announcement about its BIOS changes via reddit. Within its post, MSI says that MSI motherboard users haven’t experienced the issue where the SoC voltage boosts as high as 1.5V. However, in the interests of absolute safety, MSI has followed AMD’s latest guidance and “disabled the 7000X3D Core over-voltage feature.”
If you own an MSI AM5 motherboard, the maker asks that you continue to “be cautious with CPU voltage usage.” MSI assures its reddit community readers that when AMD releases a solution to the current issues, it will “promptly update” its BIOS files again.
In summary, if you are an AM5 platform user, please be careful with your voltages at this time, apply these updates, and await further developments.
In case you are blissfully unaware of the AMD Ryzen burnout issues, a good place to start to catch up is our article AMD Ryzen 7000 Burning Out: EXPO and SoC Voltages to Blame (AMD Responds), which contains all the latest info and official statements.
Mark Tyson is a news editor at Tom's Hardware. He enjoys covering the full breadth of PC tech; from business and semiconductor design to products approaching the edge of reason.
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zecoeco Unsurprising consequence when overclocking.Reply
Just don't overclock and you're safe (hopefully). -
edzieba
There's a big difference betweenzecoeco said:Unsurprising consequence when overclocking.
Just don't overclock and you're safe (hopefully).
"Intentionally overclocking and overvolting a CPU with a user-selected voltage above a certain threshold may damage your CPU"
and
"Enabling the DIMM-manufacturer-provided timings via the CPU-manufacturer-provided tool (EXPO) may silently set CPU voltage above a dangerous threshold without user intervention or knowledge"
Particularly as consumers have been used to a decade and a half of enabling an analogous feature (XMP) without the same CPU overvoltage risk. -
hotaru251 if it was just SOC I have a feeling AMD wouldn't of been so "we accept the fault" as EXPO/XMP is seen as OCing and void warranties.Reply
I am type who always checks what setting is applied to pre-set stuff (as i know sometimes companies are way to generous on voltage or not generous enough)
Usually i'll see the EXPO/XMP settings, copy em down, manually tune em to that and lower voltage if its over what I think is needed. -
RedBear87
It is fairly surprising when using one click solutions, normally they. I don't remember seeing CPUs literally exploding because of XMP. At worst I've read about people seeing faster than usual degradation because of PBO, but that's not really the same thing. Either AMD or its partners didn't do their homework well enough if they allowed something similar to happen.zecoeco said:Unsurprising consequence when overclocking.
Just don't overclock and you're safe (hopefully). -
AdamB15 ALL of Biostar's available BIOS files are from 4/13...So either they foresaw this and already limited the voltages, they did it by accident/chance, or their statement is false and their fixed bios is still incoming, right?Reply
Imagine if they foresaw this issue lol -
laxman10100 I guess ASRock hasn't been on the list of manufacturers to release a BIOS update addressing this issue because their boards didn't push the SoC_Voltage over 1.3V with EXPO enabled. In my experience with the Taichi Carrara, the EXPO settings only pushed SoC_Voltage to 1.3V. It does, however, push the Memory_Controller_Voltage to 1.35V or 1.4V with an EXPO profile enabled...Reply
I wonder if this could cause the same problem - as AMD didn't state that the MC_Voltage being over 1.3V would cause this issue.... They just stated that the SoC_Voltage being over 1.3V would cause this issue... -
TerryLaze
The video of derbauer frying a x3d chip in asia is from 3/19 so the industry knows that there is something going on at least since then but realistically they should know stuff well before we find out.AdamB15 said:ALL of Biostar's available BIOS files are from 4/13...So either they foresaw this and already limited the voltages, they did it by accident/chance, or their statement is false and their fixed bios is still incoming, right?
Imagine if they foresaw this issue lol
Maybe they thought that it would be much rarer or something.
FVkTGq7brP4:1374View: https://youtu.be/FVkTGq7brP4?t=1374 -
TerryLaze
Isn't the SOC_Voltage the "all including" voltage and the mem controller a part of the soc?laxman10100 said:I wonder if this could cause the same problem - as AMD didn't state that the MC_Voltage being over 1.3V would cause this issue.... They just stated that the SoC_Voltage being over 1.3V would cause this issue...