Windows 7 Team Improves Speed of Start Button
With the huge pool of Windows 7 beta testers thanks to the publicly released build 7000, Microsoft has been tracking various performance measures and the progress its made in the latest versions.
One such metric that Microsoft is tracking is the time it takes between the click of the start button and the appearance of the menu, which is measured in milliseconds. The Windows 7 team posted two graphs showing the improvement since the beta.
“The different colors denote performance against the ‘interaction class’—the acceptable experience range defined by each feature team. In this case we want the Start Menu to appear within 50ms to 100ms,” Sareen explained. “A trace capturing tool running on each machine lets us investigate and fix what may be impacting performance.
“The charts shows in Beta 85% of interactions were within the acceptable range (i.e. green or yellow, but not red). After examining the traces and making some optimizations, we find 92% of interactions are this range for a more recent build.”
Last week, we went over a few of the more notable changes to the Windows 7 taskbar that we thought to be the most useful.
Although Microsoft isn’t sharing when we might see a new version of Windows 7 released to testers, the rumors are pointing to April 10 as the target date for the Release Candidate.
Stop your trolling, you post the same crap on every Windows 7 article. We get it, you will be sticking with an aging OS.
Stop your trolling, you post the same crap on every Windows 7 article. We get it, you will be sticking with an aging OS.
Current UAC
Are you sure you want to run program you downloaded from internet?
Yes
Are you sure you want to run program that is unsigned/signed?
Yes
Program wants to make changes to your system, do you want to allow it access?
Yes
Program wants access to the internet, Allow once, always allow, block?
always allow
There is no ability to make that file permanantly click and use. First, through infinity times you click that file it goes through the same
UAC steps, and the only part that is not is the access to internet. Thus UAC is a constant nag that never learns a thing.
What I think a good UAC would be like.
Windows recognises that actual mouse hardware clicks were used to click the download file as well as to initialize the start of said file and then refers to anti-virus software to see if any action needs to take place.
No virus, no popup.
Virus, popup.
While not perfect, there are also heuristic virus scans that look for virus type activities of files to decide if there is a new unbranded virus present.
It can, as an option selected by user in settings, warn that a file is an installation type as compared to a run type. Instead of saying system changes, it would say install software. Settings could even be setup to warn for specific system changes. Such as, adding files to start launch menu, or to registry, or any other bootup sequence database, giving some actual information to the user as to what the file is actually doing. Then I would actually welcome a popup. Once the popup is intialized the system should then allow the user to select check marks as to how to handle this file in the future.
Here is another idea for a really good way to cut back on virus'. Have windows run a virtual version of itself during installations. Put an icon on the desktop or taskbar once the virtual installation is completed, the user then has a chance to verify that they like the installation and can click the taskbar icon to either have that virtualization deleted or appended to windows. Any virus would only be in a virtual windows that once shut down would be gone forever. So, as long as the virtual windows installation is secure from the actual windows, there would be no chance of a virus getting free because a click on the delete installation or a simple reboot would wipe the virtualized virus off the system.
These things add actual security, give actual information to the user, and are valued added, as compared to what UAC does now, which is give every user a terrible spouse in the form of a computer that constantly nags you as to what you are doing.
Cuddos for Microsoft working on the details, now to see them move that detail oriented thinking into where it is going to matter most for people who will not use Vista, because Windows 7 as it stands is just Vista with a couple curtains and blinds installed over the windows.
So what does Windows 7 have over Vista? Aero Peek? Ok that's kinda nice. Little tweaks here and there, but my enthusiasm for Windows 7 has seriously waned since I first installed it because it does seem to be simply a fresh coat of paint. There is no innovative feature that says "this will increase your productivity, or your entertainment while using this OS." It's a lighter weight system, and I'm sure many will appreciate that, but they need to update it a heck of a lot more than that to convince me to spend a couple hundred dollars to upgrade. In that way Stoner's likening it to a service pack is actually very accurate, I think.
Anyway, I don't want to rant, and I like Windows 7. But it kills me that they're parading this as a brand new OS. For XP users, sure charge the full amount. But especially for Vista users, how could this possibly be worth more than $50 for an upgrade?
Statements from those same 'reviewers' also say that they like windows 7.
New (updated kernel), but the same driver model.
They chose to use the same driver model for a very good reason. Your just used to thinking that because its windows, it needs new drivers for every release.
Pipe down. I didn't both reading beyond the first sentence.
Windows 7 has better performance numbers than XP and nice graphical user interface to go along with it. It will also support nearly every piece of hardware or software that was written or updated to work on Vista.
If you want to stick with a slower operating system, without the eye candy, without the features, and without the support by all means continue using Windows XP. The bulk majority of us will not be enraged with blind hatred and upgrade to a clearly superior operating system.
So there you have the reason why jsloans posts are consitently rated in the negative double digits. Honestly, just click the thumbs down and move on, there's nothing new or useful to read there...
On a more positive note, looks like 7 will come out around the same time as AMD puts out RD890 chipset married to the SB800 and better then 3GH AM3 Phenom IIs. ARound the same time as DDR3 really becomes a logical choice vs DDR2. Should make for some really really tasty overclocking. By the price is right rules (closest without going over), I think 4.5GHz on air will be easily doable within the first week or two(with the black edition CPUs anyway). Its going to be a VERY merry X-mas this year!
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But the Beta generally is a clean system. You can optimize it all you want; what people want is optimization when all programs are installed.
I bet 100ms of startbar could very well be 250ms-500ms once you got some decent anti-virus, firewall,office packets, compression packets, CD/DVD burning software,and blueray mediaplayers installed.
On my WinXP taskbar I have about 100 programs and folders installed (folders each with their own programs, uninstall info and some other crap).
I like optimizations, but not if the end product (with everything installed) will end up being slower than the regular version with everything installed.
I sure do hope Win7 still has some background activity windows that can be disabled!
I heard a lot of the same trash talk when XP came out. "Old timers" who then had 20 years experience in the technology market knew without a doubt that XP was just windows 2000 with a fancy new interface. And guess what? It was! Holy crap, who knew? You did, that's for sure. But look what it did for the technology market? It got rid of the trashed ME, replaced the clunky 2k, and turned computers into something the average Joe could install, run, and maintain.
This is exactly what Windows 7 is doing for Vista, but with even more added benefits. Take this article for instance. They're taking Vista, improving the resource usage, interface, responsiveness, security, and usability. Not only that, but quite a few benches show it outperforms XP, so obviously those expensive programmers with likely only 5-10 years of experience making 80-120k a year at Microsoft are doing something right.
Lol, and if you're making money off of a new OS, you can only be doing one of three things; "Building boxes", help desk, or Geek Squad. Good job ace, you've got your one-up on me, that's for sure.
RE: Your profile pic of South Park says it all.
What are you morons talking about?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x9/CurnelD/win7standard.png
It took me all of three clicks.
Lol, real cute. It was sarcasm directed at jsloan's comment, or did you forget to read that one? Here it is:
But instead you resort to presumptuous direct insults based on background forum information on another member, and by calling my wife a butt face? (Which isn't my wife at all, super-sleuth)
But hey, when I start insulting you, come knock on my door. I'll give you some direct answers for them.
I wrote my personal opinion and its weird to find that some dude knows exactly what i want even though when i ran on my systems like that it was clearly NOT what i like or want ?
Thnx a lot for trying to make my world a better and the day you create a script and or guide to make it like i want/like i will be the first to cheer you on and will retry vista and or 7, but dont think you know what other people want ... if you knew you where rich had supermodels for breakfast and bunny's for dinner.
i dont know it looks like anyone that posted anything negative about vista got a negative, you sure microsoft is not doing what some company;s were paid to do on amazon, hire people to give positive reviews and attack negative reviews...
i guess when you don't have much new stuff to sell and you have to make a sales to pay or your kids eduction, your new wife, your ex wife, you resort to paying people to write positive reviews and attack negative ones.
haven't you'all read what went on with game ratings and reviews...
lol, you actually got a +1 from me on that post, just because.
Lol, jsloan, in most posts, I agree with your opinions. Infact, usually you're spot on. But this is one thing I dont. Dont take it personal, and dont think I'm getting too worked up about it.
I'm sitting second shift at an IBM contract, moving IPs across workgroups. It's boring work, so to entertain myself I'm posting on TH.