Intel says 13th and 14th Gen mobile CPUs are crashing, but not due to the same bug as desktop chips — chipmaker blames common software and hardware issues

Intel Core 14th Gen mobile processor
Intel Core 14th Gen mobile processor (Image credit: Intel)

Amidst reports of the 13th and 14th Generation processor instability extending to mobile chips, Intel has sent a statement to Tom's Hardware to clarify the situation. While there has been instability feedback on some mobile SKUs, the cause of the instability differs from their desktop counterparts.

"Intel is aware of a small number of instability reports on Intel Core 13th/14th Gen mobile processors.

"As always, if users are experiencing issues with their Intel-powered laptops we encourage them to reach out to the system manufacturer for further assistance." — Intel representative to Tom's Hardware.

Alderon Games was one of the few companies that shared its statistics about Raptor Lake and Raptor Lake Refresh Core i9 crash rates. The founder, Matthew Cassells, recently stated that although the company's laptops with mobile variants crashed less frequently than the desktop chips, the issue still existed on laptops. 

Cassells responded to Intel's statement in a Reddit thread:

"The laptops crash in the exact same way as the desktop parts including workloads under Unreal Engine, decompression, ycruncher or similar. Laptop chips we have seen failing include but not limited to 13900HX etc.," Cassells said.

"Intel seems to be down playing the issues here most likely due to the expensive costs related to BGA rework and possible harm to OEMs and Partners," he continued. "We have seen these crashes on Razer, MSI, Asus Laptops and similar used by developers in our studio to work on the game. The crash reporting data for my game shows a huge amount of laptops that could be having issues."

Zhiye Liu
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Zhiye Liu is a news editor and memory reviewer at Tom’s Hardware. Although he loves everything that’s hardware, he has a soft spot for CPUs, GPUs, and RAM.

  • boerhae
    So Intel knows enough about bug #1 to say that it's a separate thing from bug #2. Still, they haven't said anything at all yet about bug #1 and I have no idea if my 13700KF is about to combust. Do I have this right? Lol?

    If I missed something let me know.
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  • derekullo
    boerhae said:
    So Intel knows enough about bug #1 to say that it's a separate thing from bug #2. Still, they haven't said anything at all yet about bug #1 and I have no idea if my 13700KF is about to combust. Do I have this right? Lol?

    If I missed something let me know.
    We don't know what we don't know, but we are positive that what we didn't know last week is not the same as what we don't know this week!
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  • Amdlova
    "Intel is aware of a small number of instability reports on Intel Core 13th/14th Gen mobile processors".

    Small... Who want define what is small?

    For me is 70% of all 13 and 14 gens cpus is dammed even the Doom guy can't kill all these cpu.
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  • The Historical Fidelity
    From the independent investigations I follow, it is looking like oxidation of the copper vias due to contamination during tantalum deposition is the most likely culprit as even low power Intel chips suffer the same symptoms.
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  • The Historical Fidelity
    derekullo said:
    We don't know what we don't know, but we are positive that what we didn't know last week is not the same as what we don't know this week!
    Love it! It’s like the age old military intelligence saying: “we are re-classifying this ‘known unknown’ into an ‘unknown known’”
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  • Francis412
    Atta Boy Intel blame it on Software.

    That aught to increase AMD sales
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  • hotaru251
    from a broad range of potential software and hardware issues.

    yeah liek the hardware being the cpu....

    also if they cant say what issue on desktop is how do they know its a bug????
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  • JRStern
    So - no similar problems on AMD/TSMC chips?
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  • Amdlova
    JRStern said:
    So - no similar problems on AMD/TSMC chips?
    My 5700G died with memory error random locke ups
    first batch ryzen 5xxx is plaged
    AMD system is good but don't recommend to no one buy used!
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  • thestryker
    I know Intel undoubtedly put out this statement because the majority of their market is laptops but this does nothing but muddy the waters in my opinion. It's an acknowledgement that they know what the problem facing desktop parts is but haven't said anything. I understand that there are legitimate reasons for keeping quiet (most pressing being to make sure they have enough parts for replacement as this seems inevitable) but this has taken on a life of its own and they need to stop it.
    The Historical Fidelity said:
    From the independent investigations I follow, it is looking like oxidation of the copper vias due to contamination during tantalum deposition is the most likely culprit as even low power Intel chips suffer the same symptoms.
    Based on this Intel statement that seemingly wouldn't be correct as every RPL part uses the same manufacturing process and the HX line are B0 die like the desktop parts are.
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