We’re Still Waiting on Too Many of Nvidia’s Turing Promises

High-end PC gamers and enthusiasts are the kind of consumers most companies dream about: a collection of people eager to spend thousands of dollars on performance hardware. And two years after the well-received 10-series cards from Nvidia, a Vega response from AMD that failed to move the performance-per-dollar needle significantly forward, and enduring over a year of crypto-driven price craziness, those consumers were pretty eager for something new to get excited about.

But here we are more than two months out from the Turing launch, and Nvidia doesn’t have a whole lot to show for its effort, other than a trio of high-priced cards that are consistently failing to arrive in stores at their promised starting prices.

Latest Videos FromTom's Hardware
Matt Safford
Managing Editor

After a rough start with the Mattel Aquarius as a child, Matt built his first PC in the late 1990s and ventured into mild PC modding in the early 2000s. He’s spent the last 15 years covering emerging technology for Smithsonian, Popular Science, and Consumer Reports, while testing components and PCs for Computer Shopper, PCMag and Digital Trends.

  • compprob237
    "Just buy it."
    Reply
  • jcroe72
    Navi is around the corner
    Reply
  • redgarl
    `Hopefully more RTX cards in consumers hands will also entice more game developers to push through features that take advantage of the uniqueness of Nvidia’s Turing hardware.`

    Well, with AMD owning the console business and every PC games are console ports, Nvidia is not going to get a lot of support. The industry knows it, they know it and AMD knows it.
    Reply
  • jimmysmitty
    21407405 said:
    `Hopefully more RTX cards in consumers hands will also entice more game developers to push through features that take advantage of the uniqueness of Nvidia’s Turing hardware.`

    Well, with AMD owning the console business and every PC games are console ports, Nvidia is not going to get a lot of support. The industry knows it, they know it and AMD knows it.

    Yet tons of games use Gameworks like the originally AMD based Tomb Raider series. Big name games too like The Witcher 3. Final Fantasy XV. Etc. Consoles don't support Gameworks yet plenty of big name games support Gameworks. Its almost as if when developing the game for PC they can and do develop for PC exclusive features especially since its was a $32billion dollar market last year.

    Just to put it in perspective of $116 billion, the total for the year for gaming, it was 28% of the entire market. Consoles were 29%. Mobile gaming had vastly more with 43%. Either way PC and Console gaming were pretty much head on in terms of sales. Why would a developer not take advantage of features the majority of players probably have to get a nice slice of that pie? Answer, they will because they like to make money.

    People seem to not understand that the consoles mean nothing for PC. nVidia has the better performing GPU right now and has for a while. That means sales are higher and thus more people can take advantage of those features.

    While RTX sales are not going to be high at first unless AMDs Navi comes in swinging like an Irish boxer its not going to change much and once nVidia can lower costs for their refresh will still own the market and plenty of devs will take advantage of the available features.

    As for the cost, this is normal. No card has ever launched, that was top of the line that is, at MSRP. If retailers can take advantage and price gouge they will. Look at crypto mining. When that was the rage and AMDs cards were great for it they were inflated to hell. You could sell used GPUs from AMD for higher than its MSRP.

    Prices will settle in time once inventory channels normalize and hype blows over.

    As for features, like anything it will take time and eventually catch on. I remember when DX11 first launched. Very few games supported it but slowly and surely games started to add it in and eventually more games supported it than DX9.
    Reply
  • kinggremlin
    21407405 said:
    `Hopefully more RTX cards in consumers hands will also entice more game developers to push through features that take advantage of the uniqueness of Nvidia’s Turing hardware.`

    Well, with AMD owning the console business and every PC games are console ports, Nvidia is not going to get a lot of support. The industry knows it, they know it and AMD knows it.

    Nvidia doesn't develop these features and just tell developers, "Good luck." That's AMD's game plan. Nvidia heavily subsidizes developers and works with them directly to make use of their features and optimize for their hardware. Nvidia isn't dominating the AI and compute markets because of their hardware, it's because of their polished software ecosystem and all the money they pour into helping developers use their platforms.
    Reply
  • IntelUser2000
    21407362 said:
    fact that third-party RTX 2080s are still mostly priced at $100 or more above Nvidia’s starting MSRP.

    Third-party manufacturers aren't stupid you know? They add more software, has better features and the cooler makes the GPU run quieter and run at lower temperatures. Why would they price it lower than the "Founder's Edition" which is really a reference design?

    The reason the Turing GPUs are expensive is because Nvidia jacked up the price of the reference version with the Founder's Edition nonsense starting with Pascal.
    Reply
  • jas1nt
    Hang on a minute. Waiting for Nvidia's Turing promises? What happened to "Just buy it"?

    Consumer - It's too expensive.
    TomsHardware - "Just buy it"
    Consumer - Nothing uses Ray Tracing yet.
    TomsHardware - "Just buy it"
    Consumer - I don't want to have Ray Tracing when my whole life flashes before my eyes.
    TomsHardware - "Just buy it"
    Consumer - But I want to buy a dish washer, not a graphics card.
    TomsHardware - "Just buy it" - Actually, it's not worth it at the moment. Buy a older card. it should suffice.
    Consumer - I think I'll go to a different website to check for news. Thanks TomsHrdware!
    Reply
  • chaosmassive
    today articles

    We’re Still Waiting on Too Many of Nvidia’s Turing Promises - Matt

    few days later...

    We're pleased with Nvidia's Turing Performance, I Believe Nvidia's Ray Tracing Is Future, SO JUST BUY IT !, The More You Buy, The More You Save ! - Avram
    Reply
  • binhquangdao
    Just buy it.
    Reply
  • PapaCrazy
    Not interested in a $700 2080 blower card. I don't think we'll see many anyway because of the 215w TDP. Prices for open fan cards need to come back down to reality, below what they expect for the low end blowers.
    Reply