The Android Platform Still Has A Big Update Problem

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  • kenjitamura
    I think a LOT of the blame for this situation lands on the chinese android manufacturers. They can't be forced to comply with the licenses so they don't and as a result many devices are without open source code and drivers for other developers to be able to integrate them into newer android builds for those devices. Additionally, most of these chinese android manufacturers completely stop releasing new software after a few months so all of these devices are left to rot on stagnant older releases. I heard this is on purpose so that these manufacturers can limit the lifetime of the devices and customers are forced to buy newer devices to be able to get newer software support.
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  • therealduckofdeath
    I think a LOT of the blame for this situation lands on the chinese android manufacturers. They can't be forced to comply with the licenses so they don't and as a result many devices are without open source code and drivers for other developers to be able to integrate them into newer android builds for those devices. Additionally, most of these chinese android manufacturers completely stop releasing new software after a few months so all of these devices are left to rot on stagnant older releases. I heard this is on purpose so that these manufacturers can limit the lifetime of the devices and customers are forced to buy newer devices to be able to get newer software support.

    Google doesn't count any device without Google Play.

    In regards to this being a "big problem", I just say: It's never been a big problem on PC.
    The fact that so many people hare hanging on to legacy devices running pre-jelly bean Android is a pretty good indicator that backwards compatibility works, because if it hadn't those people would have stopped downloading apps from Google Play and they would automatically disappear from these stats.
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  • freiheitner
    The difference with old OSes on PCs is that you can still get security fixes from the OS vendor regardless of who built the PC. I cannot get security fixes made in Android on my Galaxy S3 until both Samsung and my mobile carrier make an update available (which at this point they most likely never will for a device which is just now going on 3 years old). I expect to be stuck with Android 4.3 until i buy a new phone, which may very well be an iPhone (Apple Pay in particular interests me).
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  • therealduckofdeath
    That's a huge exaggeration, freiheitner. Manufacturers maintain the phones during their expected lifetime on phones, too. Yes, the way the Open Handset alliance is set up it's all up to the network providers to push full firmware updates, but but both Google and Samsung has proven that they won't hesitate bypassing the network providers when a critical update is needed. Also, the way Android works today, most parts of the operating system is actually nothing more than apps in Google Play. These gets regular updates as long as they're kept alive on Google Play.
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  • knowom
    It's not a big deal for more users to be honest. If I felt like trying Lollipop now I probably could find someone that's developed a custom rom for it by now even on a very old Samsung Captivate. If not now maybe in a few more months. The fact that I even have Kit Kat on a Samsung Captivate says a lot considering it shipped with Android OS, v2.1 (Eclair) which also isn't on that chart.
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  • gggplaya
    "kenjitamura , January 9, 2015 4:34 PM
    I think a LOT of the blame for this situation lands on the chinese android manufacturers. They can't be forced to comply with the licenses so they don't and as a result many devices are without open source code and drivers for other developers to be able to integrate them into newer android builds for those devices. Additionally, most of these chinese android manufacturers completely stop releasing new software after a few months so all of these devices are left to rot on stagnant older releases. I heard this is on purpose so that these manufacturers can limit the lifetime of the devices and customers are forced to buy newer devices to be able to get newer software support."

    It's not really their fault, the chinese government blocks google servers, so they can't even access it the correct way. They have to get other people in other countries to download what they need and fileshare with them, or do some work arounds, it makes things much more difficult to work out many of the bugs.
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  • kenjitamura
    Google doesn't count any device without Google Play.

    In regards to this being a "big problem", I just say: It's never been a big problem on PC.
    The fact that so many people hare hanging on to legacy devices running pre-jelly bean Android is a pretty good indicator that backwards compatibility works, because if it hadn't those people would have stopped downloading apps from Google Play and they would automatically disappear from these stats.
    Chinese manufactured tablets come with the google play store. I've got both an Ainol and Zenithink tablet that came pre-loaded with the google play store.
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  • kenjitamura
    15018229 said:
    It's not really their fault, the chinese government blocks google servers, so they can't even access it the correct way. They have to get other people in other countries to download what they need and fileshare with them, or do some work arounds, it makes things much more difficult to work out many of the bugs.

    I'm not sure how refusing to comply with the Android license and releasing the source code on the websites they have that are accessible form the U.S. relates to your point. These companies are willfully refusing to comply with every developers request sent to them to release the source code as is required by the license for developing on the android platform. A few of them have responded outright with statements that they don't have to even though that is 100% false.
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  • Sanjirox
    If android updates were less buggy, there'd probably be a bigger uptake of the latest version. I'm sick of the latest updates on my nexus phones breaking something or ruining my battery life. Got the oneplus one as my daily driver and I won't touch any lollipop updates until I'm sure it's decently stable.
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  • slyu9213
    I know I'm planning on upgrading to a Note 3/4 or a iPhone 6 Plus but I'm not really happy with My T-Mobile S3 being stuck with Jelly Bean while the International and some other American carriers getting KitKat. Not a huge deal anymore but I hate it when the OEM gets lazy and makes up excuses that it won't work for a particular piece of hardware.
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