Bitcoin Soars Towards $13,000 (Update: Make That $16,000)

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  • shrapnel_indie
    Only bad thing about it is, it means certain video cards will remain hard to get and with higher than MSRP prices. In fact it might mean even more cards will join the ranks
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  • nitrium
    Once governments/banks cotton on to the fact that no taxes can be put on Bitcoin transactions, and no possibility of QE and fractional reserve lending, and thus their very livelihoods are put at risk... well put it this way, regulations are coming and cryptocurrencies have no tangible future imo.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania
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  • Jeff Fx
    20455152 said:
    Only bad thing about it is, it means certain video cards will remain hard to get and with higher than MSRP prices. In fact it might mean even more cards will join the ranks

    Yeah, that's bad for gamers, but since I had to buy a pre-built PC to get the latest and greatest i7 during a shortage, and I already had a 1080ti, it allows me to make back the cost of the 1070 that came with the PC.
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  • Jeff Fx
    20455309 said:
    Once governments/banks cotton on to the fact that no taxes can be put on Bitcoin transactions, and no possibility of QE and fractional reserve lending, and thus their very livelihoods are put at risk... well put it this way, regulations are coming and cryptocurrencies have no tangible future imo.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania

    I think you're right. For cryptocurrencies to make it in the long-term, governments would have to collapse, and the Internet would somehow have to stay up in the chaos. This seems very unlikely. I just wish I knew when was the best time to sell.
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  • TJ Hooker
    20455152 said:
    Only bad thing about it is, it means certain video cards will remain hard to get and with higher than MSRP prices. In fact it might mean even more cards will join the ranks
    Are you saying that people will see the value of bitcoin which will inspire them to then buy GPUs to use as miners for other cryptocurrencies, or that new cryptocurrencies to mine will keep popping up in the wake of bitcoin's value? Because mining bitcoin with a GPU is long dead.
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  • nitrium
    BitCoin (and other cryptos) are all set up as classic Ponzi schemes, where the founders and early adopters mined the low-hanging fruit, while the those late to party now bear all of the cost of the price increases with ever decreasing returns. Further, once all the coins are mined (or mining is no longer financially viable) who ultimately verifies the blockchain (which will be several TBs big by then) which is required for every transaction? If some sort of server farm takes over that role, where will it be located and how much will they charge for their services? And so much for the much vaunted anonymity then too, since said farm can (and will be) subpoenaed for transactions.
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  • redgarl
    GPUs are not associated with Bitcoin mining, people should realize that. Ehterum and other cryptocurrencies are way more linked to the GPU frenzy. Unlike what others believes, I think new cryptocurrencies are still going to drive the GPU market. People who think it is going to go away are just wishful. Miners are jumping on other currencies that are more profitable and they are all exploding.

    Bitcoin are only at that price because the organize crime are mainly using it. The day it is going to crash, it is going to crash hard. Bitcoin should be ban entirely. They are used for drugs, weapons, hitman and human traffic. It is all the wrong of humanity at this point.
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  • shrapnel_indie
    20455421 said:
    20455152 said:
    Only bad thing about it is, it means certain video cards will remain hard to get and with higher than MSRP prices. In fact it might mean even more cards will join the ranks
    Are you saying that people will see the value of bitcoin which will inspire them to then buy GPUs to use as miners for other cryptocurrencies, or that new cryptocurrencies to mine will keep popping up in the wake of bitcoin's value? Because mining bitcoin with a GPU is long dead.

    Mining bitcoin using a GPU may be long dead, but obviously not everybody got the memo. Polaris based cards are still, for the most part above what they should be. Vega is above where it should be. Even some of NVidia's Pascal line (GTX-1060 mostly, 1070 somewhat) are still a bit above where they should be.
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  • TJ Hooker
    20455851 said:
    Mining bitcoin using a GPU may be long dead, but obviously not everybody got the memo. Polaris based cards are still, for the most part above what they should be. Vega is above where it should be. Even some of NVidia's Pascal line (GTX-1060 mostly, 1070 somewhat) are still a bit above where they should be.
    The shortage/increased prices of GPUs we've been seeing in 2017 has nothing to do with bitcoin. It's because of the rise of ethereum, as well as some other cryptocurrencies.

    "Bitcoin" and "cryptocurrency" are not synonymous.
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  • shrapnel_indie
    20455533 said:
    GPUs are not associated with Bitcoin mining, people should realize that. Ehterum and other cryptocurrencies are way more linked to the GPU frenzy. Unlike what others believes, I think new cryptocurrencies are still going to drive the GPU market. People who think it is going to go away are just wishful. Miners are jumping on other currencies that are more profitable and they are all exploding.

    Bitcoin are only at that price because the organize crime are mainly using it. The day it is going to crash, it is going to crash hard. Bitcoin should be ban entirely. They are used for drugs, weapons, hitman and human traffic. It is all the wrong of humanity at this point.

    Your argument sounds awfully like the arguments against torrents, but with different details. Bitcoin, in and of itself, isn't that much different in that it can be used to support evil, immoral, and/or unethical activities, just like torrents can be used for piracy, child-porn distribution, etc... Yet both can be used for positive things too. They are both just a "tool" that can be used for good or bad, depending on how people use them. I could argue that cars be banned because of one person in the NYC area who used one to plow people over and kill them... and in his own words continued to do so if he didn't wreck his rental. The rental car/truck was used for evil purposes instead of good that day. (There are other cases too, just not at the same level, or broadcasted as loudly since they aren't firearms.) Torrents can be used as an alternate distribution system for legally sold documents, media, and other software just as easily. The fact some businesses (Steam was one until they decided bitcoin was too unstable) accept it as legal payments also show that it can be used ethically, morally, and legally too.
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