Core Combat: Intel Xeon W-3175X vs. AMD Threadripper 2990WX

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Paul Alcorn
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Paul Alcorn is the Editor-in-Chief for Tom's Hardware US. He also writes news and reviews on CPUs, storage, and enterprise hardware.

  • sstanic
    "an unoptimized Windows scheduler"

    nuff said.
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  • redgarl
    Do we really need a gaming performance segment for such a product review? Nobody is going to play on a 28-32 core CPU... especially since AMD mentioned WX were NOT aimed at gamers.

    As far as features go... how Intel is winning when the only advantage it has is six-channel memory over AMD socket? 64 PCIe lanes, 64mb of L3 cache, 2933 MHz memory, 32 cores, lower temps and better power...
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  • redgarl
    21752791 said:
    "an unoptimized Windows scheduler"

    nuff said.

    It is way more than this. We don't even have proper benchmarks to provide a good analysis.

    As of now, Phoronix is the only person who provided a good idea to what to expect of a 32 core workstation, because he was using Linux.

    Microsoft needs to wake-up.

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  • Art_8_
    When you know what Windows kernel is doing to the Threadripper and you run this comparison with anything other than an attitude of tongue in cheek you are complacent in spreading a load of bull. It is well known that the scheduler was modified by MS at the request of Intel to solve an Intel processor issue and MS went ahead with it even though as a collateral outcome it crippled the Threadripper.
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  • AndrewJacksonZA
    Paul, for real, how many of these benchmarks can you run on Linux in order to mitigate the Windows scheduler issue, please?

    While I am a Windows user and all of my & my team's current use cases all fall on Windows software except for two which can run on Linux, but don't (yet?) there are many people who are not in that situation.

    Also, seriously, gaming benchmarks??
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  • A Stoner
    Just because you are not going to buy a 28 or 32 core processor for playing games does not in and of itself mean that gaming performance is not important.
    If I were going to dump $8000 to $12000 on a computer for rendering for example, I would not want to have to turn around and drop another $3000 to $4000 on a gaming computer.
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  • mischon123
    Love to have a Threadripper. But right now life is good. 8 Ryzen cores already make this the best computing platform ever. Everything zips. No delays, stoppages, no weird bugs. Just happy.
    Those chips show whats ahead once they solve the bottlenecks, integrate ram and better graphics near the cores. I guess we will have 128 cores/128mb Ram/128gb graphics pipeline in a while. 2,4,6,16,24/32/64/128 in 2025?
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  • Paul Alcorn
    21752949 said:
    Paul, for real, how many of these benchmarks can you run on Linux in order to mitigate the Windows scheduler issue, please?

    While I am a Windows user and all of my & my team's current use cases all fall on Windows software except for two which can run on Linux, but don't (yet?) there are many people who are not in that situation.

    Also, seriously, gaming benchmarks??

    Running Linux isn't an issue, but spinning up benchmarks for multiple chips is a time consuming endeavor. Windows is the predominant OS for workstations, whereas we use Linux for server testing.

    Yes, we run games. We do not deviate from our standard test regimen on any chip. This is because some might think we are hiding poor performance, etc, for the device under test. However, we will add tests to reflect specialized use cases, such as the workstation tests above.
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  • tyns78
    Performance per dollar is a different category from performance; to claim AMD ties or beats Intel in some categories b/c it's cheaper is disingenuous. Have performance comparisons, then have value comparisons.

    Intel smokes AMD's product, period. You'll always have to pay much more for the best hardware.
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  • WINTERLORD
    a amd motherboard is way cheaper then the MB that fit the intel chip plus cost of chip amdd wins this assuming the performance is close to same. although for just an ordanary high end machine iv always loved intel however they got some serios compatetion here
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