Intel Introduces New Mesh Architecture For Xeon And Skylake-X Processors

Intel's Akhilesh Kumar, the Skylake-SP CPU architect, penned a blog post today announcing the company's new on-chip mesh architecture for its Xeon Scalable Processor platform.

Intel's Scalable Processor platform is the company's re-branding of its venerable Xeon processor lineup, and due to the company's continued use of optimized server processor die for its HEDT (High-End Desktop) lineup for enthusiasts and workstations, the new architecture has wormed its way into the forthcoming Skylake-X family.

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  • compprob237
    Nice article. I was curious about the Mesh but never looked in to it. Looks like AMD bringing the competition has brought about innovation from the stagnant Intel.
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  • JamesSneed
    Interesting, hope to see some reviews on Monday. I'm pretty curious how the 7820x will turn out.
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  • Dugimodo
    Competition is good, but intel haven't just plucked this design out of the air in response to AMD releasing Ryzen. The truth is if all intel wanted to do was compete with Ryzen they already have products that match or better them and all they'd need to do is drop the prices - admittedly hugely. I'm impressed by Ryzen, but it only wins on price.
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  • JamesSneed
    19821430 said:
    Competition is good, but intel haven't just plucked this design out of the air in response to AMD releasing Ryzen. The truth is if all intel wanted to do was compete with Ryzen they already have products that match or better them and all they'd need to do is drop the prices - admittedly hugely. I'm impressed by Ryzen, but it only wins on price.

    I have to disagree a bit. If you compare Ryzen to the fastest non HEDT CPU, the 7700k, there are lot workstation and scientific tasks Ryzen is faster than Intel. Threadriper is coming to compete in the HEDT line so I think we can have more apples to apples discussions instead of comparing Ryzen to Intel's HEDT line which is a bit disingenuous. Will your statement hold true once all the chips on the table, maybe, but I think before we jump to conclusions we see Intels and AMD's HEDT chips then call it.
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  • Rookie_MIB
    19821430 said:
    Competition is good, but intel haven't just plucked this design out of the air in response to AMD releasing Ryzen. The truth is if all intel wanted to do was compete with Ryzen they already have products that match or better them and all they'd need to do is drop the prices - admittedly hugely. I'm impressed by Ryzen, but it only wins on price.

    Well, if you factor in price AND performance, then it comes out ahead. Yes, in raw speed Intel has faster cores, but you pay through the nose for those faster cores. For everyone else except the independently wealthy or large enterprise customers, they need the best bang for their buck - and that's what Ryzen provides.

    (disclosure - I have a Ryzen 1700 - and boy it has some processing power)

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  • ClusT3R
    Lol like always AMD innovating and the other has been the copy cat, the funny thing here they were force to change the architecture I don't know ho much but now if when you are going to see APPs that needs to bee optimize for that thing and is when people are going to understand what the innovations process cost to AMD all this years.
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  • bit_user
    After seeing this on Xeon Phi v2 (KNL), I was wondering whether we'd see it in E5/E7 Xeons. Rings only get you so far.

    BTW,
    trips to fetch data in adjacent CCXes incurs a latency penalty due to the trip across the Infinity Fabric. Communication between threads on cores located in disparate CCXes also suffers.
    This is redundant. Threads communicate via caches & memory.
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  • homeles
    The "mesh" thing has been in the works for ages. David Kanter over at Realworldtech predicted that Skylake-EX would use it back in January 2014. The TeraScale project was Intel's first (at least publicly) exploration of a 2D mesh, and that presentation was back at ISSCC 2007. Knight's Landing already uses it. It has zero to do with AMD.

    Now is Intel making changes in response to AMD? Surely they are. Where you'll see this is with marketing, SKUs, and pricing -- you can change this on the fly. Something like this "2D mesh" however has been in the works for over a decade, and to claim that "it must be AMD!" is perhaps the single most asinine claim I have read in my entire time of following hardware (a good 7 years or so).

    - III-V
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  • kinggremlin
    19821616 said:
    Lol like always AMD innovating and the other has been the copy cat, the funny thing here they were force to change the architecture I don't know ho much but now if when you are going to see APPs that needs to bee optimize for that thing and is when people are going to understand what the innovations process cost to AMD all this years.

    Intel demonstrated a 48 core cpu that utilized a mesh topology back in 2009, LONG before AMD was talking about infinity fabric. Intel didn't just magically come up with this in an instance in response to AMD.
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  • InvalidError
    19821616 said:
    Lol like always AMD innovating and the other has been the copy cat, the funny thing here they were force to change the architecture
    Intel didn't put Skylake-X together overnight. For its mesh arrangement to be about to hit production silicon now, Intel must have made the design decision somewhere in the neighborhood of two years ago.

    Also, that's the third time Intel has changed its server CPUs' internal interconnect arrangement despite its monopoly position in the server space and this newest scheme bears a striking resemblance to Altera's FPGA scheme where extra D-flops are buried in the routing fabric, so I strongly suspect that the new routing arrangement is closely related to Intel's acquisition of Altera a few years ago - buy a programmable logic chip company, integrate some programmable logic related architecture in new CPUs.

    Additionally, although Intel may have been slacking off in the low(er) margin mainstream and HEDT markets, its higher-end server CPUs have continued scaling as Intel needs more powerful and power-efficient chips to get repeat sales from companies that have already bought their previous-gen chips at those crazy E5/E7 prices and profit margins.

    AMD's Ryzen/TR/EPYC have nothing to do with it, that's where Intel was going on the server side regardless.
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