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The Old Republic's New Trailer Shows Old Friends

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Heeeeeeeeeee's baaaaaaack!

For PC gaming Star Wars fans, it doesn't really get much better than the Knights of the Old Republic.

Now BioWare is working on an MMO based off the Old Republic – hopefully making the next big MMO cash cow to follow in the footsteps of wow.

Just released is this new trailer showing off some gameplay and conversation clips… with a pleasant surprise at the end.

Star Wars: The Old Republic

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jefe323 09/09/2010 2:14 PM
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oh snap...hello darth revan

too bad this game is an mmo; i might have gotten it if it was an rpg like swkotor

EXT64 09/09/2010 2:15 PM
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Release a non-MMO version, then I'll be interested. Not saying they didn't do a great job with this (in fact since they did a good job it is even more painful), but MMO's and their pay scheme just aren't my thing.

nologo 09/09/2010 2:25 PM
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insider3 09/09/2010 2:28 PM
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I like what you did with the title there.

jedi940 09/09/2010 2:32 PM
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I agree, I would prefer a non-mmo. I understand that mmo's need a pay structure and that is fine, however, I don't like to pay. That is my own personal preference. Also, my attention span isn't long enough to play the same game for weeks and weeks. I usually tank through about half an RPG, then I won't finish it for another year.

Sykar 09/09/2010 2:40 PM
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Yay! I loved HK-47!

mattclary 09/09/2010 2:42 PM
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I also don't like the rental payments on an MMO, but this is tempting. My problem is I only have time to play infrequently, so not sure if I can justify spending ~$12 per month and only be able to play 3-4 hours in that time frame.

IWC Member 23495867 09/09/2010 3:05 PM
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And this is why I'm building a new PC within the year. This game will rock!

Stifle 09/09/2010 3:06 PM
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I have found that strong story lines are hard to come by in MMORPGs. There is too much emphasis on balancing and not enough backstory and engaging content for the most part.

On a different note, who let the dark elf into old republic?

SirGCal 09/09/2010 3:12 PM
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I've been wanting another good MMO. Just hope this doesn't turn out to be another 'Galaxies' tragedy.

FattyBeef 09/09/2010 3:18 PM
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It isnt an MMO. Its an RPG with multi player stuff built in that will generate a huge pile of money in reoccuring revenue.

8 classes. 8 story lines. 30 hours (judging by ME2 and DA:O) about 8 months of game play unless youre in college then maybe only 4.

$60.00 out of the box, assume $15.00/month = $200.00 for what we are assuming are the single player arcs in the first 3 quarters after release. Throw in the stupid micro transactions they are going to offer and maxing out character levels and you have one real big pile of money...

Real big... the Joker lighting it on fire big...

benfea 09/09/2010 3:31 PM
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I can see not wanting to play MMORPGs because they are inherently designed to be far more addictive than other kinds of games. I can see not wanting to play MMORPGs because they are by their nature highly repetitive. I can see not wanting to play MMORPGs because that means playing alongside random strangers, most of whom are jerks.

But not wanting to play MMORPGs just because of the pricing structure is simply silly. The volume of content delivered by a typical MMORPG simply dwarfs the quantity of content in a standalone game, and most MMORPGs continue delivering new content after the game is released (and I am not referring to expansion packs). The monthly fee is more than justified as you are getting your money's worth out of the deal.

A good MMORPG will interest you for a year or two. During that time, you will be buying far fewer other games, so the cost really works out to be similar to what you are already paying, unless you are a very casual gamer.

webbwbb 09/09/2010 3:36 PM
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Nightsilver 09/09/2010 3:50 PM
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What a surprise, the actual gameplay still looks "stop-go", clunky and unappealing. Extremely disappointed, I will probably not buy this. The original trailer definitely got my attention, as did the subsequent one, but the actual gameplay footage just doesn't live up to the hype. Good try BioWare, I guess.

coleipoo 09/09/2010 4:28 PM
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Give me KOTOR 3 with Mass Effect 2's engine.

ares1214 09/09/2010 4:38 PM
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Sigh...MMO...biggest disappointment when i heard a while back. PLEASE MAKE A NON MMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DIDNT PLAY WoW FOR A REASON!!!!

spectrewind 09/09/2010 4:46 PM
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EXT64 :
Release a non-MMO version, then I'll be interested. Not saying they didn't do a great job with this (in fact since they did a good job it is even more painful), but MMO's and their pay scheme just aren't my thing.



No kidding... I still don't accept the idea of repeatedly "paying rent" for something I had to buy off the shelf to begin with.

Seeing games like WOW look interesting, although I reject the business model.

CoryInJapan 09/09/2010 5:53 PM
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EXT64 :
Release a non-MMO version, then I'll be interested. Not saying they didn't do a great job with this (in fact since they did a good job it is even more painful), but MMO's and their pay scheme just aren't my thing.



I was about to say the same thing.I love kotor and I hate that they just had to go and make they're next iteration an MMO...Yes...it hurts a lot, because it actually looks like a really good game.

partytime 09/09/2010 6:10 PM
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zak_mckraken 09/09/2010 6:16 PM
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I know my comment will go unheard, but to all those who don't lile MMO's simpy because they have to "pay to play", let me tell you this... again : World of Warcraft, as an example, costs between 13-15$ a month to play, depending on your payment plan. I bought, played and enjoyed Mafia II earlier this month. 60$ for what... 20 hours? I'm not saying it's a ripoff, it's a great game. But saying that paying a fixed amount per month for hours of enjoyment, provided you like the game, is a bad business model is plain stupid.

nologo 09/09/2010 6:25 PM
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zak_mckraken :
I know my comment will go unheard, but to all those who don't lile MMO's simpy because they have to "pay to play", let me tell you this... again : World of Warcraft, as an example, costs between 13-15$ a month to play, depending on your payment plan. I bought, played and enjoyed Mafia II earlier this month. 60$ for what... 20 hours? I'm not saying it's a ripoff, it's a great game. But saying that paying a fixed amount per month for hours of enjoyment, provided you like the game, is a bad business model is plain stupid.



exactly..jeez..i've spent so much on games recently that i've played less than 4hours.. i've played wow for god knows..(i'll check tonight).
yeah..i've spent loads of cash on it, have i got value for money?probably not but i've enjoyed it. last game i've spent a large amount of time on was FF7 on ps1.

zak_mckraken 09/09/2010 6:25 PM
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ares1214 :
Sigh...MMO...biggest disappointment when i heard a while back. PLEASE MAKE A NON MMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DIDNT PLAY WoW FOR A REASON!!!!


AAARRRRGGGGHHH!!! THEY SOULD DO THE GAME I WANT THE WAY I WANT! I'M PROBABLY BROKE BUT BUSINESSES SHOULD LISTEN TO ME CAUSE I SPEAK IN CAPS! I'M IMPORTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANT! LISTEN TO MEEEEEEEEEE!

That's you. That's how you sound.

zak_mckraken 09/09/2010 6:29 PM
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nologo :
exactly..jeez..i've spent so much on games recently that i've played less than 4hours.. i've played wow for god knows..(i'll check tonight).yeah..i've spent loads of cash on it, have i got value for money?probably not but i've enjoyed it. last game i've spent a large amount of time on was FF7 on ps1.


Just try to do a ratio $/hour and you should have a pretty good idea. I play wow like 30 hours a month, that's about $0,50/hour. Most single player story-driven games (ie. Not multiplayer, racing or sports) last aroud 20 hours. At $60 each, they provide enjoyment for $3,00/hour. It's all relative to the time you put in and the enoyment you get from it. I can understand that's it's not for everyone, but money is really not an issue as long as you like the game.

mr0000000000 09/09/2010 6:34 PM
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LOL @ Everyone with the argument of "I don't want to pay rent for my game".

You're probably the same people who will buy a game, beat it within two weeks, and go right back out and happily pay $60 for a game. Yeah, MMOs aren't for everyone, but the monthly fee is not one of those reasons. You pay ~$15 / month and get a game that continually gets more and more content. You'll end up saving money because you wont buy any / as many other games.

Heck, with all of the games going DLC crazy, you're pretty much paying the same or more "rent" for MUCH less content.

gm0n3y 09/09/2010 6:45 PM
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Jedi940 :
I agree, I would prefer a non-mmo. I understand that mmo's need a pay structure and that is fine, however, I don't like to pay. That is my own personal preference. Also, my attention span isn't long enough to play the same game for weeks and weeks. I usually tank through about half an RPG, then I won't finish it for another year.


I actually don't even care about having to pay for a game on a monthly basis. Its definitely not about the money to me. MMOs are just boring. I don't want to grind out levels and try to find new items. I want to have more story and new content. I'm not sure how they can fix MMOs to get rid of the boring grinding and still make me want to pay monthly to play them, but the current system doesn't work.

jgiron 09/09/2010 6:51 PM
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Quote :LOL @ Everyone with the argument of "I don't want to pay rent for my game".

You're probably the same people who will buy a game, beat it within two weeks, and go right back out and happily pay $60 for a game. Yeah, MMOs aren't for everyone, but the monthly fee is not one of those reasons. You pay ~$15 / month and get a game that continually gets more and more content. You'll end up saving money because you wont buy any / as many other games.

Heck, with all of the games going DLC crazy, you're pretty much paying the same or more "rent" for MUCH less content.


True, but with MMOs you get your mojo on with a virtual gf requiring a new keyboard, monitor and mouse. Others who are not addicted don't have that problem. :)

Maziar 09/09/2010 6:51 PM
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I also like KOTOR series and Old republic looks quite good but i preferred a non-MMO version too.

james_lankford 09/09/2010 7:27 PM
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spectrewind :
No kidding... I still don't accept the idea of repeatedly "paying rent" for something I had to buy off the shelf to begin with.Seeing games like WOW look interesting, although I reject the business model.


your ongoing payments are for the ongoing multiplayer experience

so you are not "paying rent". You are not making repeated payments for something you already own.

it is the social experience you're paying for

james_lankford 09/09/2010 7:30 PM
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mattclary :
I also don't like the rental payments on an MMO, but this is tempting. My problem is I only have time to play infrequently, so not sure if I can justify spending ~$12 per month and only be able to play 3-4 hours in that time frame.



going to the movies once a month costs about the same and most moves are less than 3 hours

and for people who choose to spend their time playing the game instead of watching tv then $15 per month for 2 hours a game play per day is a bargain.

killerclick 09/09/2010 8:09 PM
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I don't play MMOs or multiplayer games, so I won't be buying this.

jaysbob 09/09/2010 8:14 PM
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I just don't trust anything that automatically takes money out of my account every month. too much like paying taxes.


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