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3:00 AM - April 17, 2008 by
Thomas Soderstrom and Shelton Romhanyi
Source: Tom's Hardware – Keywords: cpu, graphic, game
Topics: Build Your Own, Overclocking
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Source: Tom's Hardware – Keywords: cpu, graphic, game
Topics: Build Your Own, Overclocking
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Average Performance Differences
With so many benchmarks to consider, it could be more useful to narrow down our scores to per-application averages! We’ll go on to further narrow the comparison to “application type” before considering the value of each configuration.
Sorting our game average performance chart by “overall” performance leaves the bars in complete disarray, since some games benefited from greater graphics power while others preferred higher CPU speed. The overclocked System Builder Marathon leads overall, but not by much.
The overclocked $500 “Gaming” PC takes a huge lead in the majority of applications, making it more of a balanced performance system than a “game only” machine.
Synthetics often prefer a quad-core processor, so the overclocked System Builder Marathon machine leads overall.
Now we can average out performance differences by “benchmark type” to see if the $500 Gaming Machine is really more game-oriented than the System Builder Marathon’s “Low-Cost” configuration.
Though the SBM “Low-Cost” machine was designed for a balance of applications and games, it takes the gaming lead and loses the applications crown to the $500 gamer. The performance difference in games is still far smaller than the price difference, so lets see how these stack up in value.
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its more objective if you used the same ram type and gpu, tus it would be nice if you add monster gpu for comparation (such as 9800/gtx/2 and 3870 x2), another round shall we? 
I would have like to see the 9600GT instead of the 8800GS but good read anyway.
| p3matty : How long is that CPU going to last at 1.55V? |
Even if it only last 1-2 years at 70 bucks or less I think you got your moneys worth.
MisterChef
04/17/2008
4:57 AM
| radguy : I know time is limited but is it really right to compare the stock 8800gs to an oc 3870. |
The 320Mb versions of the 8800GTS have come down in price to the point that it might fit a $500 budget. That would be more of a fair fight.
danatmason
04/17/2008
5:20 AM
I just did a build like this a bit over a month ago. Unfortunately, I went with an Athlon x2 4000+ which, even overclocked, can't come close to the Pentium Dual Core OC'ed. The case and power supply combination presented here is an excellent value - I chose the same power supply with a different case and total cost was 33% more. I had to choose a 8600gt as well because of a lack of material on the 8800gs at the time. The 8800gt fell in price dramatically though so I picked one up and got rid of the other card. That brings me to my point - after rebates, an 8800gt can be had for 150 and a 9600gt can go for 110 - has there ever been a better time to do a budget build?
romulus47plus1
04/17/2008
5:38 AM
Get the 9600gt!
I built something similar to this for a friend. I came in at $550, but I have 4 gigs of ram, and a better power supply. I didnt OC at all. I could have reused the old HD and knocked $60 off of it but I wanted to dump all the ATA stuff in the case except the floppy. I also reused the old case, which is how I got a better powersupply. Also used a 9600 GT for a little nicer card. She had a copy of Xp to throw on it.
Quad vs Dual core in a budget machine is really shown here. The quad core just simply isnt worth the money right now. Not enough apps really take advantage of it.
Overall its a smoking little machine. The processor with nothing but a heatsink change will hit 3 ghz + as shown in this article. She games, but is on a 19" LCD, which has a native resolution of 1200X something I think so the 9600 GT is plenty of video card for her.
Overall this is a great article and $500 can easily be adapted to whatever you need give or take $50 depending on what components you salvage off the old PC.
Quad vs Dual core in a budget machine is really shown here. The quad core just simply isnt worth the money right now. Not enough apps really take advantage of it.
Overall its a smoking little machine. The processor with nothing but a heatsink change will hit 3 ghz + as shown in this article. She games, but is on a 19" LCD, which has a native resolution of 1200X something I think so the 9600 GT is plenty of video card for her.
Overall this is a great article and $500 can easily be adapted to whatever you need give or take $50 depending on what components you salvage off the old PC.
I agree with Kaldor. This was a really good article. You could see in the benchmarks what a better video card could do for you. It would have been interesting to see the results if there had been time to OC the GPU.
I think the dual vs. quad debate is more relevant when multitasking is involved. Certainly in a budget build a dual is the right choice.
I think the dual vs. quad debate is more relevant when multitasking is involved. Certainly in a budget build a dual is the right choice.
I think what this really shows is that the $110 spent on the SBM cpu was a waste of money. These results just proved that the E2160 is still much better than the Phenom quad, especially for overclocking. Using that CPU seriously handicapped your low cost SBM machine.
itdoesntmatter
04/17/2008
6:57 AM
Good start 
Great article and an interesting read, some headway is clearly achievable.
Am looking forward to a follow up, especially if you are planing to pat yourselves on the back!
Great article and an interesting read, some headway is clearly achievable.
Am looking forward to a follow up, especially if you are planing to pat yourselves on the back!
Mach5Motorsport
04/17/2008
7:16 AM
Any reviews of a Phenom 8400 system? They're selling for about $500. How would that fare?
Great Article. But has anyone else noticed that the Antec NSK4480B is no longer available at newegg? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129032 I was looking to pick one up but not the cheapest i can find them is around $100.
it is a good start to talk about low-budget pc for gamers. The majority of pc users around the world are poor (the same goes for general populace), most of us in Sudamerica we can only dream of game rigs or such. If you add the problematic off the "technology delay" (in Argentina a 780G board is unavailable, and 700 chipset is worth here a U$S 415.00)we can denied a serious problematic.
I hope to see a Spider platform in the same bugdet or on lower one, and thus, compare.
I hope to see a Spider platform in the same bugdet or on lower one, and thus, compare.
I think I would rather have this case and psu combo for $89 after rebait
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129024
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129024
| joetheone wrote : Great Article. But has anyone else noticed that the Antec NSK4480B is no longer available at newegg? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129032 I was looking to pick one up but not the cheapest i can find them is around $100. |
Antec is likely going through a product refresh.
Example - The Antec 900 is being replaced by the Antec 1200.
Expect to see a similar Product out soon in the same price range.
| Mach5Motorsport wrote : Any reviews of a Phenom 8400 system? They're selling for about $500. How would that fare? |
Likely not very well.
Very few retails systems have anything above very basic graphic cards.
Even the High-End Quad Core sytems lack decent graphics.
Add to that, the E8400 has one less core and is clocked slower than the previous $1000 build.
Would've been nice to have a 3870 GPU like the so called "budget" build that was built in March, but this shows that you can still have a decent gaming rig for about $500. I would've bought CAS 4 DDR2 800mHz over the CAS5 stuff they used. After MIR it would've been cheaper and faster, but the initial price would've pushed the budget over the $500 limit. I'm betting if the $50-75 more for the 3870 in the April build, would've towered over the March build. It definately would've been nice to use the same memory/GPU/HDD on all of the builds and just vary the CPU to see what "really" matters in games, which we all know is the GPU (in general).
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I know time is limited but is it really right to compare the stock 8800gs to an oc 3870.
Anyway I think the results show that at 500 bucks you can build a nice gaming pc and thats number has come down quite a bit.