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AMD: Turbo CORE

CORE Or Boost? AMD's And Intel's Turbo Features Dissected
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Intel arms its Core i5 and Core i7 CPUs with Turbo Boost. AMD's hexa-core Phenom II X6 chips sport Turbo CORE. Both technologies dynamically increase performance based on perceived workloads and available thermal headroom. Which one does the better job?

Turbo CORE is available on all AMD Phenom II X4 and X6 processors based on the recent 45 nm designs, namely the Thuban six-core and seen-in-the-wild but not-yet-available-at-retail Zosma quad-core models. Should it ever see retail availability, the Phenom II X4 960T at 3.0 GHz nominal speed could accelerate two cores up to 3.4 GHz (+400 MHz) with the thermal headroom available, and if the application load demands the increase. The Phenom II X6 processors increase their clock speeds by 500 MHz, with the exception of the 1090T flagship, which adds 400 MHz to reach from 3.2 to 3.6 GHz.

This implementation can be considered an addition to the Cool’n’Quiet feature, which reduces clock speeds and voltages if there is little work for the processor to do. Once half of the cores are idle, the system reduces their clock speed to the Cool’n’Quiet minimum of 800 MHz. The next step is a voltage increase for the remaining active cores paired with a speed lift of up to 500 MHz, as explained above.

Unfortunately, few workloads would tax exactly three cores by 100%—the conditions needed for AMD’s solution to run at 3.6 GHz. We found that a two-core load scenario is more realistic. This is why the feature works better on a CPU with an even core count, such as the Phenom II X4 960T.

AMD’s Turbo CORE control allows Black Edition processor users to adjust their number of accelerated cores. This makes analysis more complex, but also gives enthusiasts a more powerful tool for fine tuning their systems.

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    tony singh , July 28, 2010 6:29 AM
    Not as powerful but at least amd is doing some thing to stand up to the monster named i7...
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    eddieroolz , July 28, 2010 7:11 AM
    While AMD's implementation is more crude, I think they did okay in this test. I hope they will continue improving their Turbo CORE so it can become more competitive against Intel. After all, Intel had nearly 2 years of head start to perfect their Turbo feature.
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    antlee , July 28, 2010 6:52 AM
    It would be nice to include i3 530/i5 750/i7 860 so that we can see if a more aggresive speed bump worth its cost.
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  • 17 Hide
    tony singh , July 28, 2010 6:29 AM
    Not as powerful but at least amd is doing some thing to stand up to the monster named i7...
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    antlee , July 28, 2010 6:52 AM
    It would be nice to include i3 530/i5 750/i7 860 so that we can see if a more aggresive speed bump worth its cost.
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    Emperus , July 28, 2010 6:57 AM
    With manual overclocks being as easy as changing numbers due to unlocked multipliers on both those CPU's, i guess the turbo effect is not that much of a consideration.. Moreover, most of us (IMO) prefer running at single stable clock readings rather than allowing frequent dynamic changes..
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    eddieroolz , July 28, 2010 7:11 AM
    While AMD's implementation is more crude, I think they did okay in this test. I hope they will continue improving their Turbo CORE so it can become more competitive against Intel. After all, Intel had nearly 2 years of head start to perfect their Turbo feature.
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    rohitbaran , July 28, 2010 7:56 AM
    AMD's Turbo CORE is not that good, but I will give it that it came up with a trick that works, at least for single threaded applications.
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    Hamsterabed , July 28, 2010 8:22 AM
    I couldn't tell was Hyper threading on or off for these tests? Also I agree seeing the other i5 and i7 implementations that have more aggressive turbo boost parameters would be good to see in that we could see if the efficiency holds up and what % increase per clock is, like if it is a linear gain or a diminishing returns game.
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    SpadeM , July 28, 2010 8:40 AM
    When was this article actually written? I'm asking because the Drivers and Software section for the AMD motherboard isn't present and the BIOS on the Asus and Intel boards are old.
    I'm not saying that with new bios-es and drivers the outcome would be different(or would it be?) but what I am saying is that if this was written a couple of months ago, why wasn't it published then?
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    Anonymous , July 28, 2010 9:15 AM
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    The 800-series even bumps clock speed up by five clock speed bins for a single core. One speed bin equals 133 MHz at stock speed, so we’re effectively talking about a 133 to 533 MHz dynamic increase.

    Dousn't 5 times 133Mhz equals 666Mhz ?
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    Anonymous , July 28, 2010 9:30 AM
    Wow, the benchmark graphs in this article are absolutely nonsensical! What are they calibrated against? Sometimes the Turbo value is at 100%, sometimes the non-turbo value, and it's different for AMD and Intel in the same graph.
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    BruceOTB , July 28, 2010 11:04 AM
    Probably amd's development is hindered by intel's patents.
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    frozentundra123456 , July 28, 2010 12:48 PM
    Am I reading the graphs correctly?? AMD's 400 mhz overclock is more than 10 percent on half the cores, but performance only increased a few percent at max and in most cases only a percent or two??? Doesnt seem to scale very well with the speed increase. I think intel is the same but their overclock is less so it is hard to say.
    Also, I know it has already been published, but I would like to see the absolute performance of the two chips vs one another. The percent increase does not address at all which chip is actually faster. I know that was not the point of the article, but that is still the most inportant factor, after all.

    And how about some gaming results??
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    halls , July 28, 2010 1:03 PM
    Cool article. In the future, when there are cheaper processors available that use these features from both manufacturers, I would like to see a similar article related to games!
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    kikireeki , July 28, 2010 1:16 PM
    AMD's 300$ processor on par with Intel's 1000$ !! I think this is more than enough to declare AMD as a clear winner here.
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    scook9 , July 28, 2010 1:36 PM
    If on par means taking about 30% longer to complete the same tasks....lol

    And it sounds like the authors "ideal turbo" is exactly what the socket 1156 parts all use....an i7 870 should have been included in these tests
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    gxpbecker , July 28, 2010 1:39 PM
    Good to see AMD trading blows with Intel. The main reason i have stuck with AMD is the price/performance. Even with the boosts intel is clearly superior and in most cases really doesnt need the boost.. though it never hurts. Will be interesting to see if Bulldozer come to fruition in early 2011 how much things will change.
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    lradunovic77 , July 28, 2010 1:41 PM
    Turbo feature -> retarded. Do old style overclocking!
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    saint19 , July 28, 2010 1:48 PM
    Nice article and doesn't exist a winner here just depends of what do u want to do with the CPU. Intel is much better is somethings and AMD have better results in others.

    The price of both Intel and AMD CPUs aren't important here since is a performance chart with stock and turbo features not a price/performance comparative.
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    ta152h , July 28, 2010 1:52 PM
    These two write the most boring articles, and come up with a conclusion anyone would have guessed.

    The Lynnfield processors already have a more aggressive turbo boost, by the way.

    The last statement is really poor. The specifics of the processor should determine how much boost they give it, not a blanket statement of discrete amounts. While I agree the boosting could have been improved on these processors, it's got to be a case by case basis depending on the processors' characteristics, and the companies design goals with that specific unit.
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    hundredislandsboy , July 28, 2010 2:14 PM
    I liked the article because for me it further justifies why my last CPU purchases made this year were for AMD's 955BE and hexacore 1055T. This article shows that AMD not only can compete with their own version of turbo boost but more importantly, AMD offers better value - $180 for an AMD hexacore versus nearly a grand. $1,000!!, for Intel's hexacore.
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