AMD Expected to Become TSMC's Second Largest Customer

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Now that AMD produces most of its CPUs, GPUs, and custom SoCs at Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC), the company may become the foundry's second-largest customer, right after Apple (according to a report from Seeking Alpha). If this happens, AMD will have a much more favorable negotiation position with TSMC than other companies such as Nvidia, Qualcomm, and Broadcom. If AMD becomes TSMC's second-largest client, it will not only be able to negotiate more favorable financial terms with the foundry, but it will also be able to influence the development of TSMC's future process technologies, process recipes, and get access to the latest nodes faster.

AMD Is Getting Bigger

Anton Shilov
Contributing Writer

Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.

  • jkflipflop98
    All the power is still in TSMC's favor. This won't give AMD any better pricing or terms. There's A LOT of demand and TSMC is holding all the supply. TSMC could tell AMD to go pound sand and they would have those wafer starts sold to another company by the end of the day.
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  • JayNor
    Intel announced a DARPA partnership today, which uses its eASIC chips. Up until now these have been built at TSM, with 16nm being the most recent node. The announcement says Intel will be building DARPA eASIC projects on Intel's 10nm. Perhaps this is a first glimpse of a "built in the USA" promotion.
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  • vern72
    I see GlobalFoundaries is still making poor decisions.
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  • VforV
    vern72 said:
    I see GlobalFoundaries is still making poor decisions.
    What do you mean still? They made that decision in 2018... to not fight for the avant-garde tech crown and as far as the reports go, they are doing profit for the first time in years making tech on older nodes. You might need to inform yourself better...

    We as custumers might want and like to have another cutting edge foundry, but as far as they care, they are making more $$$ now, than before when they were trying to compete.
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  • TCA_ChinChin
    I guess in an indirect way, US sanctions will actually improve supply for AMD products by limiting TSMC's previous Chinese customers and giving AMD for supply from TSMC.
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  • Co BIY
    if AMD becomes TSMC's second-largest customer, it will be far easier for the company to secure chip supply from the world's largest contract maker of semiconductors, which will force Nvidia to order chips at Samsung Foundry.

    While the first is possibly true (Not entirely clear why this would be the case). I'm sure the second is not true. In fact the article gave some reasons that could drive Nvidia to source more production at TSMC rather than less.

    Interesting that even intel is such a large and growing TSMC customer.

    TSMC is doing amazingly well. The only threat to them is a large cyclical downturn which has been common in semiconductors. OTOH they are positioned to weather that with their large single-source fabless customers which gives them a demand stability similar to Samsung or intel.
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  • waltc3
    You never know what to believe on the Internet anymore--I read a couple of months ago that AMD had already displaced Apple as TSMC's largest customer through AMD's 2021 advance bookings...
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  • cryoburner
    waltc3 said:
    You never know what to believe on the Internet anymore--I read a couple of months ago that AMD had already displaced Apple as TSMC's largest customer through AMD's 2021 advance bookings...
    That may have been referring specifically to them being the largest customer on TSMC's 7nm node, since Apple has already started transitioning their products to 5nm.
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  • PiranhaTech
    It makes sense. AMD Ryzen 5000 series was hot and the performance was amazing. AMD GPUs are sold out. AMD is also in the PS4, PS5, and a whole bunch of Xboxes. With the Playstation and Xbox, it might not be AMD-specific chips but chips built upon an AMD license
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  • waltc3
    cryoburner said:
    That may have been referring specifically to them being the largest customer on TSMC's 7nm node, since Apple has already started transitioning their products to 5nm.

    Apple's 5nm production won't even be a patch on TSMC's total 7nm production--in fact, TSMC's 5nm production this year will be far lower than their 7nm production. But, the article I read stated that AMD had specifically knocked off Apple as TSMC's largest customer in 2021 through advance reserved capacity bookings for 2021 TSMC production. So, who knows....? I don't really care, but considering how large the demand is for AMD products it wouldn't surprise me at all.
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