Samsung: 1TB DDR5 RAM in 2024, DDR5-7200 in 2025

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To support the launch of next-generation server platforms from AMD and Intel, Samsung plans to introduce a lineup of all-new DDR5 server memory modules topped by the industry's first 512GB RDIMM/LRDIMM and based on 16Gb and 24Gb DDR5 devices. The next step in Samsung's DDR5 innovation — a 32Gb IC — will come in early 2023 and enable the company to build a 1TB memory module in late 2023 or early 2024. Meanwhile, in two years, Samsung intends to release ICs with a 7200 MT/s data transfer rate.

1TB DDR5 RDIMMs in 2024, 2TB Modules on Horizon

Anton Shilov
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Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.

  • jeremyj_83
    Right now 64GB RDIMMs are the most popular size for use in servers. Those are all manufactured using 16Gb chips. Going to 32Gb chips will allow for 128GB RDIMMs to become the most popular all while costing the same as the current 64GB RDIMMs.
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  • TJ Hooker
    Does anyone know why DRR5 ECC DIMMs are still nearly nonexistent (and seemingly not really being discussed either)? I mean DIMMs that have sideband ECC, in addition to the on-die ECC that all DDR5 has.

    Are the big memory players just waiting until DDR5 server chips (Sapphire Rapids and/or Genoa) are shipping in bulk? I would have thought you'd want the memory to be available before that happens.
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  • jeremyj_83
    TJ Hooker said:
    Does anyone know why DRR5 ECC DIMMs are still nearly nonexistent (and seemingly not really being discussed either)? I mean DIMMs that have sideband ECC, I'm addition to the on-die ECC that all DDR5 has.

    Are the big memory players just waiting until DDR5 server chips (Sapphire Rapids and/or Genoa) are shipping in bulk? I would have thought you'd want the memory to be available before that happens.
    I would assume the server vendors are buying all the L/RDIMMs right now so they will have enough stock at launch. ECC UDIMMs are really only used in low end embedded servers from what I've found. Perhaps the on-die ECC will be enough.
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  • spongiemaster
    TJ Hooker said:
    Does anyone know why DRR5 ECC DIMMs are still nearly nonexistent (and seemingly not really being discussed either)? I mean DIMMs that have sideband ECC, I'm addition to the on-die ECC that all DDR5 has.

    Are the big memory players just waiting until DDR5 server chips (Sapphire Rapids and/or Genoa) are shipping in bulk? I would have thought you'd want the memory to be available before that happens.
    Sapphire Rapids has been available for a while for some of Intel's major customers. As Intel said, the delay for SR is for fully functional CPU's. Not all their customers need that, and are fine using what is working. There's no reason for memory makers to sell DDR5 ECC DIMMS to retail when there are no "DIY" platforms for sale that can use it. They're selling what they produce directly to the companies that need it.
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  • TJ Hooker
    jeremyj_83 said:
    I would assume the server vendors are buying all the L/RDIMMs right now so they will have enough stock at launch. ECC UDIMMs are really only used in low end embedded servers from what I've found. Perhaps the on-die ECC will be enough.
    Hmm, I was under the impression that the majority of L/RDIMMs were also ECC, such that most servers used ECC. Don't really have a source for that though, I could be mistaken.
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  • TJ Hooker
    spongiemaster said:
    Sapphire Rapids has been available for a while for some of Intel's major customers. As Intel said, the delay for SR is for fully functional CPU's. Not all their customers need that, and are fine using what is working. There's no reason for memory makers to sell DDR5 ECC DIMMS to retail when there are no "DIY" platforms for sale that can use it. They're selling what they produce directly to the companies that need it.
    Do you have a source for SPR already being widely available? There was a bit about them planning to start shipping some chips for the Aurora supercomputer near the end of last year, but nothing but reports of delays since. Even Intel's own Xeon page makes makes no reference to 4th gen (SPR) processors.

    https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/details/processors/xeon/scalable.html
    And technically all alder lake chips support ECC DDR5. You just need a W680 motherboard (which admittedly seem pretty rare themselves, at least in consumer channels).
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  • jeremyj_83
    TJ Hooker said:
    Hmm, I was under the impression that the majority of L/RDIMMs were also ECC, such that most servers used ECC. Don't really have a source for that though, I could be mistaken.
    I've never seen an L/RDIMM that wasn't also ECC. Granted I'm sure they were a thing a some point in time. We just don't say I need an ECC RDIMM since the RDIMM already has ECC.
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  • Krotow
    1TB DIMMs... I already imagine planned obsolence geniuses catching the idea of next bloatware OS cycle.
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  • bit_user
    TJ Hooker said:
    Does anyone know why DRR5 ECC DIMMs are still nearly nonexistent (and seemingly not really being discussed either)?
    I noticed the same thing. Once Supermicro's W680 boards started shipping, I started pricing an upgrade for my 10-year-old workstation. This was the first stumbling block I hit.

    Supermicro listed one SKU of ECC DDR5 in its QVL, but you couldn't find it for sale: https://store.supermicro.com/32gb-ddr4-2666-mem-dr432l-sl01-eu26.htmlNewegg had nothing. No DDR5 in server memory, and no ECC DDR5 in desktop memory.
    Crucial's website listed a 1R and a 2R module, but they didn't offer it for purchase on their website, nor could I find it anywhere else. See: https://www.crucial.com/memory/server-ddr5/mtc20c2085s1ec48ba1rKingston had no ECC DDR5.
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  • bit_user
    jeremyj_83 said:
    Perhaps the on-die ECC will be enough.
    No. The on-die ECC is low-density and only used to paper over DDR5's higher intrinsic error rate due to smaller cell sizes, longer refresh intervals, and maybe lower-voltage.

    ECC DDR5 DIMMs exist because there's still a need for them. And that's in spite of the fact that they now have to be 80 bits, due to bifurcation of DDR5 DIMMs into 2x 32-bit subchannels.
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