AMD lists three new Ryzen Zen 3+ processors — without integrated graphics
They could potentially be set for budget mobile gaming rigs.
AMD has listed three new Ryzen 7030 Series "Rembrandt" Zen 3+ CPUs with their iGPUs disabled: the Ryzen 5 7235H, Ryzen 5 7235HS, and Ryzen 7 7435H. All three were quietly listed on AMD's website and are listed for global availability.
This news, first spotted by WccfTech and VideoCardz (for the Ryzen 7), comes following the Ryzen 8000 Series "F" desktop CPUs with their iGPUs removed, but those were exclusive to China.
As their names imply, the Ryzen 5 7235H and 7235HS CPUs are astonishingly similar— their specs are effectively identical, so the difference may be for marketing purposes. The official specs listings being referred to don't list overclocking being enabled on either of these CPUs, though an earlier listing mistake showing iGPU support has been fixed.
According to VideoCards, the Ryzen 7 7435H was previously used in laptops from Lenovo and was also poised to show up in gaming machines from Mechrevo. The gaming bent makes sense, as those systems almost always come with discrete graphics.
Below are all three CPUs and their specs, in one place:
Header Cell - Column 0 | AMD Ryzen 5 7235H | AMD Ryzen 5 7235HS | AMD Ryzen 7 7435H |
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CPU Cores | 4 Zen 3+ "Rembrandt R" cores | 4 Zen 3+ "Rembrandt R" cores | 8 Zen 3+ "Rembrandt R" cores |
CPU Threads | 8 | 8 | 16 |
L1 Cache | 384KB | 384KB | 512KB |
L2 Cache | 2MB | 2MB | 4MB |
L3 Cache | 8MB | 8MB | 16MB |
Base Clock | 3.2 GHz | 3.2 GHz | 3.1 GHz |
Max Boost Clock | Up to 4.2 GHz | Up to 4.2 GHz | Up to 4.5 GHz |
Default TDP | 45 W | 45 W | 45W |
AMD Configurable TDP (cTDP) | 35 - 53 W | 35 - 53 W | 35 - 54 W |
Memory Capacity Support | 64GB | 64GB | 64GB |
Memory Channels Support: | 2 | 2 | 2 |
Memory Speed Support: | Up to 4800 MT/s | Up to 4800 MT/s | Up to 4800 MT/s |
Wccf speculated that these could be worked into a competitive place in mid-tier CPU offerings and contacted AMD for official word on pricing, but received nothing by time of writing. We've seen AMD use previous-gen cores before, so the practice isn't surprising.
These CPUs are likely going to be targeted at mobile platforms, which in the PC space now means a combination of laptops and mini PCs. Some Mini PCs have already been seen putting Rembrandt to good work, with the Ryzen 6900HX present in the Sibolan SZBox S69 still providing good iGPU performance for today's currently-low standards. Improved competition from Intel will soon change that, of course.
As always, it takes both price and performance to measure the value of a chip, so we can't really attest to either just yet.
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AMD has listed three new Ryzen 7030 Series "Rembrandt" Zen 3+ CPUs with their iGPUs disabled: the Ryzen 5 7235H, Ryzen 5 7235HS, and Ryzen 7 7435H.
Just to avoid any confusion and make it a bit more clear, these are actually "refresh" chips, based on the "Rembrandt-R" silicon, branded as 7035 series. R for refresh. Not 7030 actually.
The original "Rembrandt" silicon featured the Ryzen 6000 Mobile series. https://www.cpu-world.com/Cores/Rembrandt.html
This was done when AMD went for a new naming scheme for it's processors starting with the 7000 series. So these chips based on Rembrandt-R are the new Ryzen 7035 notebook APUs.
BTW, I think AMD's official pages still list these processors as iGPU enabled, 'Integrated Graphics as Yes'. I checked them all. Of course this could be an errata.
https://www.amd.com/en/product/14311
https://www.amd.com/en/product/14316
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Notton What a weird product.Reply
I have never seen a mini-PC that doesn't have some sort of iGPU on it, even if it has a dGPU.
Like it doesn't even have one of those seriously cut down 2CU or 16EU graphics on it?
As for using this in a gaming laptop... I guess that is one way to cut costs.
I know AV1 hardware decode isn't a make-or-break feature, but that seems like a really bad match up.suryasans said:It's highly likely AMD will bundle it with its Navi 24 based mobile GPUs. -
Confusion.Reply
Errata on AMD's product page is still listed IMO?, or these new procs now support both integrated and discrete graphics, hehe. :geek:
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usertests I find it hard to believe that the iGPUs are disabled and they still get H/HS in the names. They probably do have iGPUs.Reply
But if they are destined for mini PCs with dGPUs, that's cool I guess. -
das_stig I know crossfire is supposed to be dead end technology, but you would think AMD would reimplement this in systems that have APU's for general work and then a bigGPU for gaming who can control/offload some work to the littleGPU for a performance boost without the application knowing about it , it's a win for all, keep the bigGPU idling with it's heat and power usage down while the littleGPU does the work and maybe even accessing the bigGPU memory pool?Reply
Can I TM littleGPU and bigGPU ;) -
Gillerer There's bound to be some kind of error in this data still.Reply
Zen 3 has 64 kB of L1 cache per core, but the listing shows total 384 kB. Either the reported cache amount is wrong, or these Ryzen 5 parts have the customary 6 cores instead of the listed 4. -
...... though an earlier listing mistake showing iGPU support has been fixed.
No. It was never fixed. Not sure from where did the author get this info in the first place though.