Intel's Arrow Lake-S rumored for December launch
January for non-K SKUs?
Just a couple of weeks ago we reported that Intel was on-track to launch its codenamed Lunar Lake-V platform for laptops in September and then start sales of unlocked codenamed Arrow Lake-S processors for desktop computers in October. Today, a new rumor emerged that Intel's Arrow Lake-S will only be available for sale this December, which could mean a delay. As ever with rumors, take the news with a pinch of salt.
Hardware leaker @9550pro did not reveal their source, but indicated that a claim (made by Jaykihn on X, formerly Twitter) saying that Arrow Lake-S is set to reach its QS milestone only on the 40th week of 2024 (late September – early October) corroborates his information as it takes no less than three to four months to get from QS (quality samples) to start of actual product shipments (i.e., desktop PCs in this case).
At this point, we do not know whether if 'Arrow Lake-S' means socketed Arrow Lake-S 125W processors with unlocked multiplier and 8P + 16E cores silicon configuration; socketed Arrow Lake-S in general (both 125W and 65W), which includes both 8P + 16E silicon as well as 6P + 8E silicon configurations; or Arrow Lake-S processors for mainstream desktops with a 8P + 16E or 6P + 8E die and a 65W processor base power.
Typically, Intel releases its unlocked 125W processors for enthusiasts with maximum core count configuration first in October or November, then follows up with mainstream 65W processors in January. Therefore, if 125W unlocked Arrow Lake-S reaches QS milestone only in late September, or early October, then its launch in December can be considered a delay.
Yet, if we are talking about mainstream 65W configurations, reaching QS in late September and shipping in desktops in late December (or rather early January) is a typical Intel roadmap for such CPUs. In fact, if Intel makes mainstream 65W Arrow Lake-S available in actual machines in December, we may even consider this a pull in as normally mainstream processors are launched at CES and miss critical holiday sales season, allowing Intel to sell more expensive 'K' parts in November and December.
Intel of course does not comment on rumors, so for now it is hard to say for sure what we are dealing with, so take the information about Arrow Lake-S with a grain of salt.
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At this point, we do not know whether if 'Arrow Lake-S' means socketed Arrow Lake-S 125W processors with unlocked multiplier and 8P + 16E cores silicon configuration; socketed Arrow Lake-S in general (both 125W and 65W), which includes both 8P + 16E silicon as well as 6P + 8E silicon configurations; or Arrow Lake-S processors for mainstream desktops with a 8P + 16E or 6P + 8E die and a 65W processor base power.
That's odd. Why is there a confusion here ? "Arrow Lake-S" lineup includes all three segments of processors.
The entire "Arrow Lake-S" lineup in total includes 13 models, as per rumors, including the 125W "unlocked" K-Series, 65W "non-K" and 35W "T" SKUs.
Apart from three "K" series chips, the lineup will include 5 non-K chips rated at the 65W (PL1) TDP, and 5 chips featuring a TDP of 35W (PL1).
All of these are supposed to come under the "Arrow Lake-S" family of processors.
3 K chips.
5 non-K chips.
5 T chips.
And BTW, these new rumored dates are fake. Other sources especially those on AIB board channel partner forums have reiterated the fact that the launch is still scheduled for a late October, and/or an early September timeline (for the flagship 125W K parts). -
Hardware leaker @9550pro did not reveal their source, but indicated that a claim (made by Jaykihn on X, formerly Twitter) saying that Arrow Lake-S is set to reach its QS milestone only on the 40th week of 2024 (late September – early October) corroborates his information as it takes no less than three to four months to get from QS (quality samples) to start of actual product shipments (i.e., desktop PCs in this case).
What's even odd/funny is that the original poster himself believes the launch date has not been delayed. On the basis of which leaker "@9550pro" made this new prediction of his own.
What a contradiction !
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TechyIT223 Pretty sure these new rumours are just clickbait info.Reply
I don't expect Tom's hardware to fall for this though. -
Notton Yeah, there is the perfect launch window that everyone aims for, Black Friday season.Reply
The two months with the most sales volume are Nov/Dec, so you want your product out before that.
But you also don't want to release too early because you want to dominate the news cycle in Oct, which creates hype and name recognition.
IMO, if the product is launched outside of Oct, it's because there were delays. Hello X Elite, you should have been out in 2023 Oct, not 2024 June.
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Jaykihn0
Yeah, thanks for pointing that out.Metal Messiah. said:What's even odd/funny is that the original poster himself believes the launch date has not been delayed. On the basis of which leaker "@9550pro" made this new prediction of his own.
What a contradiction !
1811407448193798155View: https://x.com/jaykihn0/status/1811407448193798155
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thestryker
He's just referring to the leak itself not being specific rather than what constitutes ARL-S.Metal Messiah. said:That's odd. Why is there a confusion here ? "Arrow Lake-S" lineup includes all three segments of processors.
Yeah I haven't seen any sort of evidence to backup a delay.Metal Messiah. said:And BTW, these new rumored dates are fake. Other sources especially those on AIB board channel partner forums have reiterated the fact that the launch is still scheduled for a late October, and/or an early September timeline (for the flagship 125W K parts). -
Whatever maybe the final launch date, I'm more interested in the 65W non-K chips this time.Reply
Jaykihn0 said:Yeah, thanks for pointing that out.
It’s still late October, 100%. Not sure what HXL was talking about.
Well, HXL's tweet is based directly on what you tweeted few days ago in which you claimed that Arrow Lake-S lineup will reach "Quality sample QS" status or milestone only on the 40th week of 2024 (late September – early October).
So based on this prediction he now claims these chips will land up in December instead.
I presume HXL's Tweet is based on this info which you tweeted.
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TechyIT223 thestryker said:He's just referring to the leak itself not being specific rather than what constitutes ARL-S
Yeah, but the wording of the entire paragraph makes it sound as if the author 'Anton Shilov' is not fully sure what constitutes the actual Arrow Lake S lineup. LOL.
A bit confusing though when someone reads it.
But never mind that. Speaking of Arrow Lake the naming scheme is confusing. Lame. 🤪
AMD Ryzen mobile is already up to "AI 300" something, and Intel didn't even include AI anywhere in the name either.
The irony 😀. But a simple "i9 285K" model name would make more sense, IMO. Without the ULTRA monicker.
Then we can have i7 265k. i5 240.
But i9 290K, 280K, i7 270 sound more sensible.
Arrow Lake should also reuse the Arc GPU from the cheapest Meteor Lake, which by itself has a similar performance to the MSI Claw, so you can just check the MSI Claw at 35W to get an idea of what to expect here.
We have no information about what Intel will do for iGPUs after this year. Most likely reuse the same iGPUs for Lunar Lake successor and Arrow Lake refresh in 2025.
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Amdlova Can't wait to see the new fiasco...Reply
If intel don't work on 13900k 14900k 14700k fiasco. Why some one will build an intel again?
Only reason I don't build amd it's the asmedia chipset. Amd promontory bug devices... -
thestryker
I would love for Intel to make a desktop SKU with better integrated, but I doubt it'll happen. I'd expect to see 2 Xe cores unless they're literally using the same GPU tile as MTL in which case it'd be 3 or 4, but we're definitely not seeing 7 or 8.TechyIT223 said:Arrow Lake should also reuse the Arc GPU from the cheapest Meteor Lake, which by itself has a similar performance to the MSI Claw, so you can just check the MSI Claw at 35W to get an idea of what to expect here.
I think dropping the i for ultra is peak dumb, but it's better than AI so I guess that's something.TechyIT223 said:But never mind that. Speaking of Arrow Lake the naming scheme is confusing. Lame. 🤪
Given that there's a 245K and a 240 I'm assuming Intel has some sort of plan for that final digit in the name.TechyIT223 said:But i9 290K, 280K, i7 270 sound more sensible.