Under The Kimono: Inside Intel's Hidden R&D

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  • randomizer
    "In this test setup, the chassis gets hit with 25 G and the installed card with 50 G."

    Now that's quality control!
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  • arkadi
    Intel boards perfect, as long as you don't plan to over clock....
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  • Pei-chen
    Intel should move on to solid state (Japanese) capacitors. Better parts are better parts even if they are equally reliable in desktop environment.

    BTW, that “dark room” looks great. My office is too well lit.
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  • enterco
    They may have good testing environment, but it seems that it's used only for 'select' motherboard/chipset combinations. For example, they don't test Core2 E7xxx CPU's in combination with x965 chipsets. Anyway, x965 boards should be able to use all Core 2 Processors with 1066 MHz.
    The conclusion: why bother to test and certify such an old motherboard chipset, as long there are so many testers out there?
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  • curnel_D
    TheCapuletAhh, so this is what Toms got for this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/review ,2138.htmlProbably. Lol. But at least it was worth the cool look into Intel.
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  • So, if Intel is so great then, what happened with the X38, X48, and X58?
    All three performance Intel boards "suck"......X975 was a great motherboard, however it has been very average since.....Has Intel ever thought to use a "solid capacitor" motherboard for the Extreme tine of boards? What gives with the Intel board? Anyway they need an enthusist level bios such as Gigabyte, Evga, Asus, or Dfi anyway.....Greatest Cpu and Chipset combination around, however the MOBO's suck wind.......Mr. Bad Kat.........
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  • Area51
    They may have good testing environment, but it seems that it's used only for 'select' motherboard/chipset combinations. For example, they don't test Core2 E7xxx CPU's in combination with x965 chipsets. Anyway, x965 boards should be able to use all Core 2 Processors with 1066 MHz.
    The conclusion: why bother to test and certify such an old motherboard chipset, as long there are so many testers out there?


    You sir are an idiot.
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  • enterco
    I believe you are wrong. There are few facts:
    1. Intel claims that their boards, specifically DG965OT can be used with 'Core 2 Processors with 1066 MHz FSB' (check this link)
    2. Intel has made the Core2 E5xxx and Core2 E7xxx processors with lower FSB than E8xxx series, and these CPU's FSB are 1066, and 800 MHz, but their statement is that 45nm CPUs are compatible with 3x series chipset and later. Perhaps, a good reason to make these variants of Wolfdale is to make them available for older chipsets. But that's true only for other vendors' boards.
    3. Intel's CPU compatibility tool claims that Core2 E7xxx (1066 MHz) cannot be used with DG965OT motherboard. This can be checked here.
    4. Intel's support specialists from the agree that 'this combination is not tested'
    5. Since I've asked them any details, Intel didn't update their DG965OT product specification page, and they did not include any statement regarding Wolfdale series Core2duo processors

    Now, how can anyone explain that a motherboard which can be used with 'Core2 processors with 1066 MHz' cannot be used with Wolfdale-derived Core2s? The only answer I found is: they don't have enough resources to waste TESTING a combination whch seems to be valid; or they are interested in selling only the new motherboards, so a customer won't upgrade only the CPU.
    Best regards,
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  • enterco
    It's about testing. I think it's good to know what's tested and what is not tested.
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  • anonymous user
    enterco.

    Is your motherboard tested to work with every DDR3 memory vendor, every SATA HDD model, every PCI-e Video card? - NO -

    As long as Motherboard and components meet common electrical specifications - they should work fine.

    Functional testing usually covers some common components as a sanity check, but never every possible combination (that would be a waste of resources).

    As long as motherboard and CPU meet common spec (and CPU is supported by BIOS) the combination should work, even if it is "untested"

    In the end, that is the whole purpose of having electrical specificion for components.
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