Super Talent Project X DDR4-3733 16GB Memory Review

Test Results And Final Analysis

In our manual configuration and stability evaluation, Super Talent’s DDR4-3733 echoes its former breakaway performance by reaching the tightest timings we’ve yet tested at DDR4-3200 and DDR4-2133.

Lowest Stable Timings at 1.35V (Max) on Asus Maximus IX Hero (BIOS 0801)

 

DDR4-3200

DDR4-2666

DDR4-2133

Super Talent Project X 16GB
F3733UX16G

14-14-14-28 (1T)

12-12-12-28 (1T)

10-10-10-28 (1T)

Mushkin RL Ridgeback 16GB
MRB4U320LLLM8GX2

18-19-19-38 (1T)

15-16-16-32 (1T)

12-13-13-28 (1T)

T-FORCE XTREEM 16GB
TXGD416G3600HC18ADC01

14-15-15-30 (1T)

12-12-12-28 (1T)

11-11-11-28 (1T)

G.Skill Trident Z 32GB
F4-3866C18Q-32GTZ

14-15-15-30 (1T)

12-12-12-28 (1T)

10-11-11-28 (1T)

And now for the surprise: Although it’s designed to operate as a pair at DDR4-3733, Super Talent sent four modules. We added the second set to our overclocking analysis.

Loosened primary timings to CAS 21 didn’t help the Project X DDR4-3733’s overclock, and it only scaled to DDR4-3867 at CAS 19. Adding a second pair, the highest stable frequency fell below its rated frequency to DDR4-3672. Sold in pairs, this DDR4-3733 pair fell directly between the overclocks of DDR4-3600 and DDR4-3866 competitors.

Tighter secondary timings could be the limiting factor in Super Talent’s Project X overclock, as tight timings would explain the heights of its Sandra Memory Bandwidth results. This chart also shows that four-module sets score higher than two, indicating our CPU's preference for four ranks of RAM. All four sets are single-sided, and adding the second set of Super Talent’s modules brought a (uncharted) DDR4-3672 bandwidth mark of 42GB/s.

Two DIMMs have a slight advantage in Sandra Memory Latency, where the Project X RAM combines that advantage with its super low latency settings to produce the best-yet DDR4-3200 timed latency of 16.9ns.

Super Talent Project X produced the highest XMP profile FPS in F1 2015 of any two-DIMM kit. We have some double-sided DIMMs on the backburner we will compare in a later review to see how four ranks perform when installed on only two slots.

Metro Last Light gets only a minor benefit from faster RAM, which can only be seen in charts and only then by looking at trends, since differences of less than one FPS can occur by chance.

All of the memory in today’s test is also too fast to hold back Blender, though small performance losses do occur when using significantly slower RAM.

Noticing that 7-Zip takes advantage of the Core i7-7700K’s preference for four ranks in this comparison of single-sided modules, the fairest evaluation would be that the Project X pair beats both the Redline Ridgeback and T-Force Xtreem pairs. The Trident Z set has four modules.

The added expense of four modules puts the 32GB set behind in a raw performance-per-dollar chart, while the price premium of DDR4-3733 puts the Project X modules behind the DDR4-3600 T-Force Xtreem.

Multiplying the above calculations by the percent difference in capacity, the four-DIMM set wins. Super Talent’s price premium for its DDR4-3733 rating holds it slightly behind the T-Force Xtreem DDR4-3600.

Super Talent’s DDR4-3733 produced the best timings we’ve seen, yet its price premium could hold it back from broader acceptance. We find two sets of competing DDR4-3733 CAS 17 modules on the market right now for $200, and one of those even has a $20 temporary discount. Because of that, we’re going to recommend Super Talent reconsider its price structure on this otherwise stellar memory.

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  • LezNato
    Too bad you guys didn't test it on and motherboard. I wonder how high it could be pushed there.
  • LezNato
    Ehh I meant AMD
  • dstarr3
    No LEDs. I'm almost willing to buy it on that basis alone.
  • CRO5513Y
    Interesting they didn't do much on the aesthetics in terms of Heatsink, colour, LEDs, etc. Since they are targeting the enthusiast market i would expect a flashy design and aesthetics like the Trident Z, Corsair Dominators, etc.

    *Edit* ^ Guy above is a perfect example.
  • fullauto2009
    "Super Talent’s 2x 8GB DDR4-3733 CAS 17 kit performce excellently"
  • littleleo
    I've not been too happy with the quality since they moved most of the manufacturing out of the US to China. They cut the warranty on their RAM from Lifetime to 5 years so they must not trust it either.

    So to sum up good kit with just okay OCing, and very bland looks for an over priced kit.
  • Antonio_34
    It's 3733 pretty well OC enough when CPU's don't officially support that speed anyways? Will this work with Ryzen or is that a mother board limitation?
  • Crashman
    2343719 said:
    It's 3733 pretty well OC enough when CPU's don't officially support that speed anyways? Will this work with Ryzen or is that a mother board limitation?
    It won't run at that speed on Ryzen. It still boots at DDR4-2133 CAS 15 without using the XMP program though, so you're welcome to use it in an attempt to overclock the processor's memory controller.
  • Brian_227
    Clearly it's THE best memory. It's printed right on there! You can't lie about that.
  • hannibal
    All these Superfast memories Are quite meh with Intel board because They give only very Little more speed, but all of these would be super interesting with AMD Ryzen setup that seems to love really high speed memory.
    Hopefully we see definitely AMD memory speed test in some point. Maybe not yet, because mother board bioses ere still very young, but maybe during the summer?
    I really would like to know the sweet spot for memory to Ryzen. For Intel, the sweet spot is the cheapest and slowist you can get...
  • cordes85
    I just like the look of G.skill Trident Z especially the 4x16gb RGB versions, it might only be 3600, but what the hell you need more for?
  • aylafruta
    I wonder what's the real benefit on a non OC system running e.g. Adobe Creative Cloud graphic applications?
  • NeatOman
    There needs to be a breakdown of MHz vs CL, again... again :-/

    Just seems like everyone always forgets of the relationship between MHz and CL. For example, 2133MHz CL9 ~/= 2400MHz CL10 ~/= 2600MHz CL11 in certain applications and MHz can win over CL in others. Point is, you may NOT see any benefits from getting that nice n fancy 3733 CL17 and can possible see a regression. There is a difference/balance between bandwidth (MHz) and speed (CL) and they do affect each other of course. Intel having all their cores connect on chip don't see a large benefit from very fast ram, but AMD does have a history of being more ram speed sensitive including Ryzen with the Infinity Fabric of course directly utilizing system RAM.
  • Crashman
    59265 said:
    There needs to be a breakdown of MHz vs CL, again... again :-/ Just seems like everyone always forgets of the relationship between MHz and CL. For example, 2133MHz CL9 ~/= 2400MHz CL10 ~/= 2600MHz CL11 in certain applications and MHz can win over CL in others. Point is, you may NOT see any benefits from getting that nice n fancy 3733 CL17 and can possible see a regression. There is a difference/balance between bandwidth (MHz) and speed (CL) and they do affect each other of course. Intel having all their cores connect on chip don't see a large benefit from very fast ram, but AMD does have a history of being more ram speed sensitive including Ryzen with the Infinity Fabric of course directly utilizing system RAM.
    We keep going over this, DDR4-3200 C16 has the same real-time latency as DDR4-2400 C12. This doesn't get much plainer.
    If you want to get complicated, DDR4-3733 C17 is quicker than DDR4-2400 C11.
  • Sabishii Hito
    Ho-hum, yet ANOTHER Samsung B-die based kit. Honestly the only things that differentiate all such modules from any of the RAM vendors is IC binning and PCB quality.
  • Antonio_34
    1549910 said:
    Ho-hum, yet ANOTHER Samsung B-die based kit. Honestly the only things that differentiate all such modules from any of the RAM vendors is IC binning and PCB quality.


    How can you tell it's a Samsung B-die?

    I read that memory with e Samsung B-die is single rack and all timings are the same. like 16-16-16-16 where as Super Talent is DDR4-3733 MHz 17-19-19-39 1.35V
  • Sabishii Hito
    2343719 said:
    1549910 said:
    Ho-hum, yet ANOTHER Samsung B-die based kit. Honestly the only things that differentiate all such modules from any of the RAM vendors is IC binning and PCB quality.
    How can you tell it's a Samsung B-die? I read that memory with e Samsung B-die is single rack and all timings are the same. like 16-16-16-16 where as Super Talent is DDR4-3733 MHz 17-19-19-39 1.35V


    B-die is the only IC currently in production that can be used to build 8GB modules that can run faster than 3466.
  • Antonio_34
    Thanks for that tim bit,

    also are the The Samsung B-die the most supported by AMD mobo's right now?
  • Nintendork
    If you're going to use fast ram, use Ryzen, the only cpu that actually benefits from fast ram.
  • Crashman
    205977 said:
    If you're going to use fast ram, use Ryzen, the only cpu that actually benefits from fast ram.
    How does that even make sense when so many Ryzen users have difficulty reaching DDR4-3200?
  • hannibal
    I think that Nintendork means that if you test Intel CPU using different speed memories, the difference in total speed is almost null (a sign of very good cache system). The Ryzen seems to handle between cores transfers based on memory speed... So there is quite huge differences in total speed based on how fast memory you use.
    The problem is as you said that at this moment the bioses with Ryzen motherboards are so young that not many of those can handle high speed memories, but those who does, are much faster with faster memory.
    So both are right from one point of view.
  • Ross_30
    Im glad theres no LEDs on these!