Senior Intel CPU architects splinter to develop RISC-V processors — veterans establish AheadComputing

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While Intel is busy laying off thousands of employees some of its most experienced CPU architects, with a combined 80+ years at the firm, have left to form a RISC-V startup. AheadComputing was co-founded by Debbie Marr, Mark Dechene, Jonathan Pearce, and Srikanth Srinivasan, with the goal of “creating compelling open specification core IP.” This proactive move by the quartet of architects and engineers must be congratulated, as they founded AheadComputing and went public on July 18 – just a couple of weeks before Intel’s harsh workforce reduction plans were announced.

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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    With its pedigree, surely we will hear about AheadComputing again, in the not-too-distant future.

    Probably Intel buying them.
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  • bit_user
    I'm getting deja vu from Apple's CPU architects forming Nuvia. That's probably responsible for the 2-3 generations' lull in new core microarchitecture improvements, following the A14/M1. Had Apple not allowed that to happen (i.e. given them cause to leave), it's crazy to think how much further along they might be.

    So, I wonder if we can expect a similar drought from Intel, in a few years. Or, maybe these folks were already hard at work on a RISC-V project at Intel and departed after receiving news of its cancellation.

    The article said:
    However, they will also meet with people during Happy Hour on Tuesdays, between 4 - 5:30 pm, at Cornelius Pass Roadhouse, Hillsboro…
    I hope they get a private room, because I'll bet there will be a few ears closely trained on them.
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  • NinoPino
    For sure this is good news for the IT world.

    I think Intel and AMD should quickly jump into the RiscV wagon to prevent loosing that train, I kindly hope they are already designing something now. It is only a matter of years before x86 will be throwing away from the notebook market, than from console market and subsequently from desktops. Server will resist more, but the end is coming.
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  • bit_user
    NinoPino said:
    I think Intel and AMD should quickly jump into the RiscV wagon to prevent loosing that train,
    AMD reportedly has ARM cores in the works. I think it's a lot easier to convert an ARM core to a RISC-V core than to build either of them from an x86 design.

    NinoPino said:
    It is only a matter of years before x86 will be throwing away from the notebook market, than from console market and subsequently from desktops. Server will resist more, but the end is coming.
    Server is where ARM has been making the biggest inroads, lately. If you leave Apple aside, ARM still hasn't taken much of the notebook market. Even a lot of Chromebooks are still Intel.

    So, if RISC-V follows that playbook, then they should focus on server, first.
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  • NinoPino
    bit_user said:
    AMD reportedly has ARM cores in the works. I think it's a lot easier to convert an ARM core to a RISC-V core than to build either of them from an x86 design.
    Ohhh, nice news. Also the use of ARM instead of RiscV could be a smart starting move that guarantee immediate access to an already mature software ecosystem.

    bit_user said:

    Server is where ARM has been making the biggest inroads, lately. If you leave Apple aside, ARM still hasn't taken much of the notebook market. Even a lot of Chromebooks are still Intel.

    So, if RISC-V follows that playbook, then they should focus on server, fifirst.
    Agree with you for cloud and new installations, but legacy x86 server market will be lucrative for many years, at least for hardware and software support reasons.
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  • JRStern
    Good for them.
    Intel should be fine, presuming they have fifty others with approximately the same skills, and maybe 20-30 years younger who will now move up. Getting rid of old folks, even who are still doing well, is a problem in big corps.
    It's not particularly rocket science any more, taking a RISC core and building up multicore chips with CODECs and NPUs and all that jazz, and maybe they have some good ideas, customers already booked.
    Heck, if RISC works, maybe they can branch back to x86 too.
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  • bit_user
    JRStern said:
    It's not particularly rocket science any more, taking a RISC core and building up multicore chips with CODECs and NPUs and all that jazz, and maybe they have some good ideas, customers already booked.
    Huh?? It's not like just anyone can design cores competitive at the cutting edge, you know? Not sure why you're talking about codecs and NPUs, either. Those have a place in the world, but they don't eliminate the need for good general-purpose CPU cores.

    That said, I doubt losing four heavyweights will be beyond Intel's ability to cope with. As you say, they should have deep talent pipelines. Assuming those haven't been depleted, I'd assume enough others can probably step up to keep the development pipeline filled.

    Then again, it's not as if Intel has been executing flawlessly. Most recently, Sapphire Rapids suffered about 1 year of schedule slip, due to a multitude of chip bugs, some of which (e.g. AMX-related) I'm sure were in the CPU cores designed by the AADG.

    JRStern said:
    Heck, if RISC works, maybe they can branch back to x86 too.
    That requires an x86 architecture license, which only Intel, AMD, and Via Technologies hold (for legacy reasons). I don't foresee Intel issuing them to anyone else.
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  • IntelUser2000
    JRStern said:
    Good for them.
    Intel should be fine, presuming they have fifty others with approximately the same skills, and maybe 20-30 years younger who will now move up. Getting rid of old folks, even who are still doing well, is a problem in big corps.
    What? Are you serious? You know you need deep knowledge and experience that only comes with time right? Things older people have? We're not talking 70s and 80s age people here.

    AADG is the group that's responsible for the "Royal Core" project that's been surfacing for a while. While some reading says the project itself hasn't been doing well, believe it when the first A in AADG is "Advanced". It was supposed to have radical concepts. Of course the performance increase was supposed to be radical as well with some saying Royal Core 1 aimed for 2x over Golden Cove(Alderlake/Raptorlake) per clock and Royal Core 2 aiming for 3x.

    Perhaps it was overly ambitious. But looking at the pedigree of engineers it's a not a small loss for Intel. They won't die overnight, but they are being picked apart piece by piece.

    I fear for the future of this company. Massive debt, degradation issue that affects 2 years worth of mainstream products which will break the bubble that's been keeping AMD at 20% client share, uncompetitive architectures.
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  • DS426
    RISC-V or not, IMO, AMD should take their lovely cash coffers and nab up some of these Intel veterans. Maybe Intel isn't even wrong from letting many of their six-figure folks go given their recent circumstances, but if so, AMD might as well capitalize on this. Moreover, if RISC is supposedly going to be the future of CPU computing, these seem like the folks to have on one's team to move that capability forward. Darnit, FFS, when someone has experiencing going back to 286/386/486, are you really going to let that walk away?

    No wonder startups with less than 1/10 the resources and free cash as the big boyz are able to do so much!
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  • Marco_il_bello
    Sorry, I read everything and it's very interesting but then I open their site and, I was incredulous that the text in the pages comes out and it's all crooked, if you press on the careers page the text comes out all out of the graphics, ok it's the content that matters but it seems strange to me that in 2024 this happens to people who are in the IT sector anyway.
    It also says that the company has been listed but I can't find anything at all on the stock exchange sites.
    I also think that, it can be interesting but I also think that intel has fired many people for its now inefficiency, maybe it fired those who made less money first? Or did he fire those who understood more than the others?

    How strange
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