Netflix Finds VP9 Offers Strong Compression At 1080p, Approaches HEVC Performance

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  • DocBones
    Wonder why they didnt do 4k testing.
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  • I'm guessing 4k testing wasn't done because of lack of samples, time and resources (spare cloud processing). I really wouldn't be surprised if it was in the works. I'm more and more impressed by Netflix, seems like they are really improving.
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  • bit_user
    We'll see how long it stays royalty-free. Patent trolls might find something it infringes. Compression is such a patent minefield that it's hard to do anything (good) with no risk of infringement.

    BTW, I don't know why they even bothered with PSNR or PSNRMSE. I hope those didn't skew the results.
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  • RomeoReject
    Does this mean there's any hope of them ditching Silverlight? I find it a bit frustrating that my mid-range gaming computer can only do stereo and 720p, yet my far weaker phone could inexplicably do 5.1 and 1080p because it uses the app instead.
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  • alextheblue
    So VP9 is *sometimes* better. The headline made it sound like they'd made some breakthrough, because at most resolutions and content HEVC wins even with the x265 open source encoder. Given how long it took for it's open source predecessor x264 to catch up to commercial encoders, I would imagine there's pay solutions that produce even better results, further distancing HEVC from VP9 in commercial encodes. For most purposes though VP9 is still good enough.

    18517786 said:
    Does this mean there's any hope of them ditching Silverlight? I find it a bit frustrating that my mid-range gaming computer can only do stereo and 720p, yet my far weaker phone could inexplicably do 5.1 and 1080p because it uses the app instead.

    Well if you run Windows 10 you just download the Netflix app and everything works perfectly at any resolution, even UHD where content exists for 4k. Problem solved.
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  • BobKatopolis
    You took Netflix's blog post, which explained that x265 outperformed VP9 under most circumstances, and wrote an article with a clickbait title that says exactly the opposite. Nicely done.
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  • Shevach
    Not all researchers agree with the statement that VP9 and HEVC are comparable.
    For example, the results reported in the paper "Contemporary Video Compression Standards H.265/HEVC, VP9, VP10, Daala" by M.P. Sharabayko, N.G. Markov reveals that HEVC is still superior to VP9.
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  • Shevach
    Not all researches agree with the statement that VP9 is comparable to HEVC.
    For example in the paper "Contemporary Video Compression Standards
    H.265/HEVC, VP9, VP10, Daala" (by M.P. Sharabayko, N.G. Markov, 2016) reported that HEVC is still superior to VP9.
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  • dark_lord69
    18517786 said:
    Does this mean there's any hope of them ditching Silverlight? I find it a bit frustrating that my mid-range gaming computer can only do stereo and 720p, yet my far weaker phone could inexplicably do 5.1 and 1080p because it uses the app instead.

    It's not your computer's fault...
    "5.1 surround sound is not currently supported while streaming on a computer using Microsoft Silverlight or HTML5."

    "The HTML5 Player may limit the quality of the stream while the Silverlight player does not. HD resolution streams are only available if the Internet connection supports at least 5 Megabits per second, but that is not the only restriction."

    As for the 1080p resolution you could probably blame that on your ISP, not your computer.
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  • CrssdOut
    i gotta agree, i know 4k is still a small growing market, but to skip that testing?
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