Echo Express Pro: Desktop Graphics In A Thunderbolt Chassis

External Graphics Performance: GPU Compute

Sonnet Technologies' chassis wasn't designed for graphics cards. It doesn't expose six- or eight-pin auxiliary power connectors. So, you either need to use entry-level graphics hardware like the Radeon HD 7750, or be willing to run a couple of leads from your PC's power supply. Naturally, that doesn't map over to notebooks, but it still makes for an interesting experiment.

Although we know what the Echo Express Pro was meant to do (enabling performance-oriented expansion for storage, A/V, networking, and so one), dropping a graphics card into the enclosure is way cooler. Most of our excitement stems from the fact that notebook graphics potential is highly dependent on the thermal, mechanical, and electrical constraints of a mobile platform. Taking that outside of the box, so to speak, opens the door to more flexible configurations.

Nowadays gaming isn't the only application for GPUs, though. The breadth of GPU-accelerated software is widening, including compression algorithms, video editing, image editing, and even bitcoin mining. Many of these titles are able to fully utilize a graphics processor's resources, consequently putting more stress on the interconnects linking each subsystem. How big of an impact does externalizing a four-lane PCI Express link have on compute performance?

CLBenchmark is a new tool created by our friends at Kishonti, also known for their GLBenchmark program for iOS and Android. It is similar to LuxMark in that it can test ray tracing and image manipulation; however, we are specifically focusing on its SPH Fluid Simulation benchmark.

As you'd expect, the card plugged straight into a motherboard performs better. But the magnitude of the impact depends on the GPU's performance, it seems. AMD's Radeon HD 6970 runs 14% faster plugged straight in to a 16-lane PCI Express slot, whereas Nvidia's GeForce GTX 460 is only 5% faster. If you're looking to upgrade a notebook with mainstream card without auxiliary power connectors, it's probable that Thunderbolt won't negatively affect its potential much at all.

LuxMark tells us a similar story. The Radeon HD 6970 takes a much larger hit than Nvidia's GeForce GTX 460. The 6970 is not particularly realistic in this application, though, given its power requirements. Boards with more conservative power needs should perform almost as if they were running in a native x16 slot, even if you attach them via Thunderbolt using Sonnet Technologies' chassis.

Diagnostics like SiSoftware's Sandra specialize in isolating specific subsystems. This title's general-purpose processing module effectively factors out interface bandwidth as a variable, putting most of its emphasis on the GPU. As a result, it doesn't really matter if you operate over a native 16-lane link or Thunderbolt's 10 Gb/s channel.

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  • amuffin
    Well, getting a laptop that supports thunderbolt is already pretty expensive. Then, you have to get one of these which ranges from $400-$800. THEN you have to buy a dedicated card....

    It's pretty expensive once you add it all up :/
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  • amuffin
    Well, getting a laptop that supports thunderbolt is already pretty expensive. Then, you have to get one of these which ranges from $400-$800. THEN you have to buy a dedicated card....

    It's pretty expensive once you add it all up :/
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  • yobobjm
    I like it, but I see limited use for it, especially for those of us who already have large towers, and don't really want another small tower added on to that. That being said, this would make a pretty awesome home dock for a laptop, and good for those tiny desktops that intel, apple, asrock, zotac and many others make (once all of those get thunderbolt).
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  • acku
    Prices will go down. Remember that.

    Second, it's about the cost you'd have to pay anyways for a desktop (which you need if you want to game since you can't on a vanilla ultrabook), so its more like an alternative solution for those who want a single system setup.

    Cheers,
    Andrew Ku
    Tom's Hardware
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  • amuffin
    Quote:
    Prices will go down. Remember that.


    They don't go down enough...
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  • mayankleoboy1
    any controller + the surrounding ecosystem that is this expensive cant survive much. Not being a hater, but being a realist.
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  • acku
    You don't know that :). USB 3.0 was expensive when it first came out. Look at things now. Wow things have changed. Prices are substantially lower now.
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  • Darkerson
    Pretty interesting, even with the currently high price tag.
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  • Vorador2
    Needs to be cheaper. That's my only serious gripe.

    And well, for this purpose Thunderbolt still needs to be faster to fully take advantage of the external GPU, best around 16 Gb/s since it's the speed of a 16x PCIE 3.0 slot.

    Although you could potentially sidestep this issue if you use two linked thunderbolt interfaces, but then there's the problem of synchronizing data transfers (and finding a laptop with two thunderbolt interfaces...if there's any)
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  • Menigmand
    If they can make this much cheaper, I would be very interested. I prefer to game on a laptop so I can easily stow it away when I have guests over and need the dining table. An extra box would be ok, as long as it doesn't need an external display.
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  • assasin32
    Well this makes things more interesting, when the price goes down and becomes resonable within probably the next few years it may give us the ability to buy laptops and attach some reasonble GPU's to them so we can play games on them a lot better.

    If this was around 8 years ago I would have been all over it and had it for my laptop since I used to use that for gaming.
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  • beavermml
    this maybe a stupid problem.. but will there be mouse lag using external dock with xtra latency? i dont know internal stuff much...
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  • de5_Roy
    intel core i5 2400 does not have intel hd 3000 igpu. it has intel hd2000 igpu. iirc core i5 2405s has hd3000 igpu.
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  • abhijitkalyane
    Think of the possibilities - Sonnet or nVidia or AMD could release Thunderbolt GPUs directly (instead of dock+GPU) - that would be a very viable alternative for Ultrabook gamers.
    If such a combination (UB with i7 + Thunderbolt GPU) is available at a reasonable price, a lot of mobile gamers will consider it. I know I would.
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  • ojas
    Yeah, but can it play Crysis?

    :P
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  • fbbam
    Awesome, but still out of reach for most
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  • toddybody
    Really cool idea...but the real world application doesnt make much sense for a windows (HW) user. For this much money...you could just build another rig/upgrade desktop internals.

    If gaming on OSX is your cup o' tea...then it does have some (albeit expensive) application.

    No offense, but hardcore gamer + Apple dont jive. Im at peace with the fact my MBA cant game...its great at what it does. Same goes for my gaming desktop (I dont cry about the lost potential of OSX applications on it).
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  • gunbust3r
    Well, now we know why the Lucid Logic demo is only using a Radeon 6700...
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  • thefizzle656
    menigmandIf they can make this much cheaper, I would be very interested. I prefer to game on a laptop so I can easily stow it away when I have guests over and need the dining table. An extra box would be ok, as long as it doesn't need an external display.


    I'm pretty sure that this and all other possible external GPU solutions require an external monitor. The box hooks up the TB port on your computer, and then you have to hook up the actual GPU to a monitor (via HDMI, DVI, etc).
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  • Anonymous
    Hi there, from reading this review, i noticed that you used it with your macbook pro. Were you able to use the external graphic card with OSX or did you install windows on your mac to use it. Would be really nice to be able to use this in OSX. Also would the Echo express be able to accommodate the GTX 460 or even better hd 7750, or would i need the more expensive echo express pro. Thanks for helping me with these questions. =)
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  • xenol
    Call me crazy, but maybe this will simplify the laptop market a little (sort of). At least in the entry level to midrange, the only thing distinguishing laptops is their processor, memory, storage, etc. Then if the user wants to, add in a discrete external card.

    Should also save board space since you no longer have to have a dedicated GPU and its RAM and house keeping to put on the board. Which means more room for the battery.
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