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Shuttle XPC Prima P2 4800X System Review
By , Jeff Prehm

I was a little disappointed in the system’s overclocking capabilities. I was not expecting a lot of head room on the QX9770 but I could not even get it to boot at 4 GHz without boosting the CPU’s voltage. To get it to the highest stable overclocked FSB speed of 407 MHz, I had to apply 1.3875 V to the CPU and this put the CPU right at the temperature limit, even with the fans at their highest settings.

The disappointment continued with the E8400. It could run easily at 3.6 GHz but trying to overclock it above that made it unstable without extra voltage added to the CPU. This is contrasted by the P35-based system, pushing the same E8400 with no voltage changes at all to 4 GHz by just boosting the FSB speed to 445 MHz. Finally, the E7200 was able to easily reach 3.6 GHz with a 9x multiplier at a 400 MHz FSB speed (which surprised me, but again, any FSB speed over 400 MHz made the system unstable, even with a lower multiplier). So the common thread here is that the FSB is limited to just over 400 MHz. You might be able to do better than this, but not without seriously tweaking the voltages.

Performance

The SX48P2 is an X48-based system with a QX9770 CPU and one of the fastest video cards on the market, so we would expect it to tear through the benchmarks. What we look for are weaknesses that would prevent this system from meeting our expectations.

Gaming Benchmarks

These include some game play from each level of the single-player games. Sometimes a few frames during a cut scene or when a game was loading were captured, which did not affect the overall results. However, this is why we have some exceedingly low and high numbers.

The two main games tested were Crysis and Call of Duty 4. These proved to be the more demanding games. The truth is that the Unreal 3 engine did not push this system enough to make more benchmarking worthwhile. Multiple levels of the game were played for all of the titles used for the tests and at least 30 minutes of game play were captured for each group of benchmarking results.

System configurations

Shuttle Prima SX48P2 Deluxe system

Table 2: SX48P2 Deluxe System Hardware
Item
Details
Processor
Intel QX9770 and E8400
Motherboard
Intel X48
RAM
Corsair 4 GB  WIN3X20481600C7DHXIN DDR3
Hard Disk Drive
2 Western Digital 150 GB Raptors
Network
Dual On-board Gigabit Ethernet and Wireless
GPU
XFX GTX280, Visiontek HD 4850 and EVGA GT8800
PSU
Shuttle 450 W PSU
Case
Shuttle XPC
OS
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit with all updates


X38-based system

Table 3: System Hardware
Item
Details
Processor
Intel QX9770
Motherboard
Intel X38
RAM
4 GB of Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX DDR2
Hard Disk Drive
2 Western Digital 150 GB Raptors
Network
On-board Gigabit Ethernet
GPU
Visiontek HD 4850 and EVGA GT8800 (GTX280 would not fit due to board components)
OS
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit with all updates


P35-based system

Table 3: System Hardware
Item
Details
ProcessorIntel QX9770
Motherboard Intel P35
RAM
4GB of Corsair TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX DDR2
Hard Disk Drive2 Western Digital 150 GB Raptors
Network
On-board Gigabit Ethernet
GPU
XFX GTX280, Visiontek HD 4850 and EVGA GT8800
OS
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit with all updates
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    1raflo , February 14, 2009 6:34 AM
    This is an overpriced rig, thats for sure.
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    StupidRabbit , February 14, 2009 8:15 AM
    Quote:
    It's an oldie, but a goody. We take apart a Shuttle XPC Prima P2 4800X, based on Intel's X48 chipset, and test this fully-built system's mettle against XPCs that came before. Our conclusion? You could do better for less if you built your own.


    lol i didnt even have to read the article since you put the conclusion right in the description on the main page.. but i guess it couldnt have ended any other way. overpriced.
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    BillLake , February 14, 2009 2:48 PM
    StupidRabbitlol i didnt even have to read the article since you put the conclusion right in the description on the main page.. but i guess it couldnt have ended any other way. overpriced.



    Well I don't see that in the article anywhere. It would seem that you might be quoting something else but the concussion is true. For those looking for a SFF it is overpriced for what it provides. You can say the same about any customer builder, Falcon Northwest, Alienware and so forth. They all sell their products for a huge premium but they do give you warranties on your "super fast and overclocked system". For me, I really like the SFF so I buy the barebones version of Shuttles products and am very happy with them.
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    StupidRabbit , February 14, 2009 6:43 PM
    well at one point i myself was thinking of buying a thermaltake lanbox. but since i dont go to any lan parties and have no need to carry my rig around, i just could not justify a small form factor box over a mid-sized one. as you said it really is a very niche market, and i guess i am just not one of the consumers that is targeted.
    nontheless, it is one cool looking thing and has more performance than most gamers need, and you are a lucky guy to have their products.

    but until i transform into a really hardcore gamer, and have a couple grand laying (lying?) around im just gonna stick with my trusty intel e6420 overclocked by 50% and a thermaltake big-typ vx-10.. something that would have a hard time fitting in there
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    StupidRabbit , February 14, 2009 6:44 PM
    *big-typ 120 vx.. correction
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    BillLake , February 15, 2009 11:38 AM
    Yeah you might be able to get some other heat sink in there but it would be hard as they really designed it for this one. Maybe remove the side fan and get one that blows out that same side?

    The reason I like the Shuttle boxes is that they take up little room and you generally do not give up much. Now that said they do lack expandability but of course I can put three in the space of a full tower case. Look at the barebones units, they are very affordable but then again if something fails you have to get their board to fix it and that is not cheap.
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    cletus_slackjawd , February 15, 2009 4:48 PM
    I have a shuttle XPC with an athlon64 3000+ skt 754, 1gig ram, x800pro, 1gb DDR-400 dual channel, sony DVD Burner and 300gb maxtor IDE PATA.
    It's based on the Nforce2 so it has good audio by Nvidia, firewire, great access up front w/ 2ea USB, Mini 1394 in front, normal in back, speaker, mic, headphone jacks up front, memory card readers up front, mirror finish up front, quiet, reliable as hell. It's actually now my wife's rig as I've built 2 new computer since handing it down, but it's pretty awesome. I will repurpose it as a media PC/Console Emulator when the time comes she wants a new one. In conclusion, a very positive experience from a Shuttle product.
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    1potato , February 16, 2009 12:14 AM
    Page 3 - "RAID supports stripping for improved data security". Made me chuckle :) . I think you mean striping, and actually I think you really mean mirroring in that context.
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    gaiden2k7 , February 16, 2009 12:46 PM
    you guys really need someone who knows his/her way w/ the camera.. blurry pictures = dizzy viewers.
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    BillLake , February 16, 2009 4:23 PM
    Thanks for catching the miss use of the word, spell check can save you from misspelling but not miss use. The system could do Striping, mirroring or striping with parity if you put three disks in. It support three disk by putting one below the optical drive. Shuttle does not sell it with 3 drives but I have done it. Well thanks again for catching that.
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    zerominus , February 16, 2009 9:37 PM
    Thanks for the article, very useful.
    We built almost the same system with a Barebone, 280GTX GPU, E8600 CPU, 4GB ddr3 and two HD's. We had the same OC problems, but also Nvidia driver errors every now and then: Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding, but has succesfully recovered. We thought the GPu was broken so we put in a new 285GTX GPU, also to bring the power use down. But the error still occurs very irregularly. Any idea what might be the problem?
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    BillLake , February 16, 2009 10:43 PM
    Not sure, we did not have driver issues like that we had overheating issues at 1920x1200, I would say try using the Nvidia driver removal tool and reinstall, see if it continues. If it does try a separate PSU if you can just for testing to see if it is a power issue. After than I am not sure what else to try.
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    bitter , March 6, 2009 7:45 PM
    cletus_slackjawdI have a shuttle XPC with an athlon64 3000+ skt 754, 1gig ram, x800pro, 1gb DDR-400 dual channel, sony DVD Burner and 300gb maxtor IDE PATA.It's based on the Nforce2 so it has good audio by Nvidia, firewire, great access up front w/ 2ea USB, Mini 1394 in front, normal in back, speaker, mic, headphone jacks up front, memory card readers up front, mirror finish up front, quiet, reliable as hell. It's actually now my wife's rig as I've built 2 new computer since handing it down, but it's pretty awesome. I will repurpose it as a media PC/Console Emulator when the time comes she wants a new one. In conclusion, a very positive experience from a Shuttle product.


    if it's sk754 it doesn't have dual channel.
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    cletus_slackjawd , May 23, 2009 8:59 PM
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    if it's sk754 it doesn't have dual channel.

    Yes you are correct. My mistake.