Panasonic's new Let's Note laptops could be the final death knell for the humble VGA port

No more VGA ports
(Image credit: Pansonic Japan)

Earlier today, Panasonic announced refreshed models of its long-established Let’s Note laptop series. However, for the first time in its history, we have a Let’s Note portable that doesn’t have a VGA port. According to a report by Nikkei Japan (machine translation), this is probably the beginning of the end for laptops sporting VGA output, with “other companies to follow suit.”

A number of factors have precipitated Panasonic’s removal of the venerable VGA port. The Nikkei report highlights the strong competition from HDMI, which can simultaneously transmit audio. We also see that the new Panasonic Let's Note CF-SC6 models feature a pair of Thunderbolt 4 ports, which can also be used for video out. That’s three separate ports remaining on the Let’s Note to drive external displays.

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  • PiersPlowman
    In Japan, the general philosophy accompanying technology is to use it until it blows up and the wheels fall off. And, given that Japanese tech is usually pretty good, it means tech remains serviceable well into obsolescence.

    In education, I have seen multimedia carts being wheeled around with tech dating back to the early 1990s, possibly earlier (cassette decks). I have even seen a few OHPs kicking around, but I confess to having a soft spot for them. Naturally, this equipment pre-dates HDMI, and by quite some margin, so you are left with the humble D-SUB to drive the projectors, which, incidentally, is the only piece of equipment that is periodically upgraded.

    Trains are the same. Outside of the Shinkansen, rolling stock is 30+ years old, and the only upgrades I have seen are the display indicators that are now a white dot matrix display instead of an orange and green one. Absolutely no new upholstery on board, but when the seats are granite upholstered in coarse-woven Kevlar, I can see why the rail companies do not bother.
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  • wr3zzz
    1. US government is still using floppy disks so let's not gloat too fast.
    2. Government contracts is likely the last market held by Japanese domestic PC/laptop makers and why so many legacy tech is still supported.
    3. The only people who still think Japan as "futuristic" are people over 50...
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  • newtechldtech
    wr3zzz said:
    3. The only people who still think Japan as "futuristic" are people over 50...
    have you ever visited Japan ? They are still futuristic !
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  • Alvar "Miles" Udell
    VGA has uses since it's still ubiquitous in projectors and such, as was pointed out, but given how inexpensive, portable, and feature rich usb-c docks are, especially when they can also be plugged into a usb-c phone as well, there's little reason to keep including it on laptops.
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  • bit_user
    I bought a server motherboard just 2 years ago, and the BMC on it still had support only for VGA! I had to buy a VGA -> HDMI converter, just so I could plug it into my KVM switch.

    The BMC chip is an ASpeed AST2500, which is fairly popular among OEMs who don't make their own BMC. I think the AST2600 finally added support for HDMI.
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  • bit_user
    Alvar Miles Udell said:
    VGA has uses since it's still ubiquitous in projectors and such,
    VGA doesn't support HDCP. As such, copy-protected content often will not display over VGA.

    For a while, I had not a VGA monitor, but an old DVI monitor that lacked HDCP support, as a second screen. When I'd have a web browser open and a video ad would show some content that happened to be copy-protected, the screen would cut out. Very annoying.

    Alvar Miles Udell said:
    VGA has uses since it's still ubiquitous in projectors and such,
    Also, projectors wear out. The bulbs die (and you can only get replacements for so long), the pixels in the LCD or DLP screens get stuck. CRT projectors fade and get burn-in. This is a problem that eventually solves itself.
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  • bit_user
    wr3zzz said:
    1. US government is still using floppy disks so let's not gloat too fast.
    New floppy disks are no longer being made. Anyone using them won't have a choice but to transition, before long, as the supply of refurb disks is drying up.
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  • SyCoREAPER
    PiersPlowman said:
    In Japan, the general philosophy accompanying technology is to use it until it blows up and the wheels fall off. And, given that Japanese tech is usually pretty good, it means tech remains serviceable well into obsolescence.

    In education, I have seen multimedia carts being wheeled around with tech dating back to the early 1990s, possibly earlier (cassette decks). I have even seen a few OHPs kicking around, but I confess to having a soft spot for them. Naturally, this equipment pre-dates HDMI, and by quite some margin, so you are left with the humble D-SUB to drive the projectors, which, incidentally, is the only piece of equipment that is periodically upgraded.

    Trains are the same. Outside of the Shinkansen, rolling stock is 30+ years old, and the only upgrades I have seen are the display indicators that are now a white dot matrix display instead of an orange and green one. Absolutely no new upholstery on board, but when the seats are granite upholstered in coarse-woven Kevlar, I can see why the rail companies do not bother.
    Negative. They are however hesitant to adopting new technology and processes until it's absolutely necessary as a society. Tons of things that could be done electronically are still done in writing.

    As for the wheels fall off, the irony of you using that analogy is coincidentally funny (not in a making fun of you way). In Japan they actually get taxed out of this world for older vehicles and opt to buy new vehicles instead as it costs them far less annually in taxes. That's why there JDM scene gets all these low miles engines from Japan. Granted I've been out of the JDM scene for years so maybe laws have changed.
    Anyway back in topic, VGA has its uses in IT for legacy purposes but for the average consumer, it's time to move on. There is no practical use for it anymore and don't even recall the last time I encountered a product with a VGA port.

    It does make me think back to years back though working IT when we had a shipping sized recycling crate worth of cables, all that copper...
    @bit_user I know you only said it for informational purposes but I sure wouldn't trust refurb floppies for anything critical.
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  • bit_user
    SyCoREAPER said:
    Anyway back in topic, VGA has its uses in IT for legacy purposes but for the average consumer, it's time to move on. There is no practical use for it anymore and don't even recall the last time I encountered a product with a VGA port.
    I was rocking a pair of 24" CRT monitors, until about 6-7 years ago. When I bought my GTX 980 Ti, I chose it specifically because its DVI connectors still had analog pins, meaning a simple cable or passive adapter could be used to hook it up to VGA monitors.

    By contrast, the AMD RX Fury cards only supported digital out.

    SyCoREAPER said:
    It does make me think back to years back though working IT when we had a shipping sized recycling crate worth of cables, all that copper...
    At my job, we still have lots of VGA and DVI cables wasting space in various bins and boxes.

    SyCoREAPER said:
    @bit_user I know you only said it for informational purposes but I sure wouldn't trust refurb floppies for anything critical.
    There's no other option. If you're still using floppies, that's the only thing on the market for a few years, already. Inventories of unused disks are gone.
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  • bit_user
    BTW, here's a fun fact I learned only recently: most DisplayPort connectors are also capable of outputting HDMI signals. This standard is known as DisplayPort++ and usually (but not always) indicated via the logo:
    DisplayPort plus plusVideo Electronics Standards Association (displayport.org), Public domain, via Wikimedia Commons
    This enables the use of cheap, passive cables or adapters. The alternative were expensive, hot, and potentially problematic active converters. Today, most DisplayPort -> HDMI cables and adapters you can buy are the passive kind.

    Even if a DisplayPort doesn't have that logo, it's still probably worth trying to get a HDMI signal out of it, so long as the device is new enough (DisplayPort 1.2 or later, I think).
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