AMD's Threadripper 7000 CPUs, TR5 Platform Will Arrive Later This Year

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Ryzen Threadripper (Image credit: AMD)

Intel's Sapphire Rapids Xeon W (codename Fishhawk Falls) processors won't be the only core-heavy offerings on the HEDT market for long. Tony Yu, General Manager at Asus China (via HXL), confirmed that AMD's rivaling Ryzen Threadripper 7000 (codename Storm Peak) and spanking new TR5 platform will hit the market in the second half of this year. Wielding the power of the latest Zen 4 cores, Ryzen Threadripper 7000 will surely earn a spot on the list of best CPUs for workstations.

AMD's consumer (Ryzen 7000), mobile (Ryzen 7045 and Ryzen 7040), and server (EPYC 9004) lineups have all received the Zen 4 upgrade. Therefore, it's only fair that AMD gives its leftover Ryzen Threadripper parts the same treatment. AMD uses a combination of TSMC's 5nm and 6nm process nodes for the core compute dies (CCDs) and I/O Die (IOD), respectively, in Zen 4 processors with a chiplet design. It's unlikely that Ryzen Threadripper 700 will deviate from this formula. The hot topic is whether AMD will limit Ryzen Threadripper 7000 to 64 cores or allow it to match the maximum core count on EPYC 9004 (codename Genoa).

Ryzen Threadripper has always been a mirror image of AMD's EPYC processors regarding core counts. Of course, the feature set is different since AMD doesn't want the Ryzen Threadripper cannibalizing the more expensive EPYC counterparts. With Genoa, AMD pushed the server Zen 4 chips up to 96 cores, 50% more than the previous EPYC 7003 (Milan) processors. So far, we've only seen evidence of a 64-core Ryzen Threadripper 7000 chip, so whether HEDT users will get the complete Zen 4 package remains a mystery.

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ProcessorSPECworkstation 3.1V-Ray 5.02Blender 3.4.0 MonsterBlender 3.4.0 JunkshopBlender 3.4.0 ClassroomCinebench R23 Single CoreCinebench R23 Multi CoreCPU-Z Single ThreadCPU-Z Multi ThreadCinebench R23 Power Draw
Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5995WX10.1262,065614.55387.77301.311,49673,779618.833,957435W
Xeon w9-3495X9.2259,440512.88356.64264.241,73673,066705.630,836680W
Xeon w7-2495X5.9729,740277.82176.18136.321,77937,809720.816,478310W

As a quick introduction, AMD's current Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5995WX has 64 Zen 3 cores, whereas the Xeon w9-3495X rocks 56 Golden Cove cores. As a result, the former was mainly faster than the latter in the Asus-provided benchmarks. The Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5995WX also exhibited excellent power efficiency compared to its peer. The results don't look favorable for Intel's Xeon w9-3495X, so even a 64-core Ryzen Threadripper 7000 processor should suffice to blow the Xeon chip out of the water. AMD may not need to push Ryzen Threadripper 7000 to 96 cores, although many HEDT consumers would love that.

AMD introduced the Socket SP5 (LGA6096) specifically for EPYC 9004. Logically, a new platform will accompany AMD's Ryzen Threadripper 7000 lineup, meaning AMD will push the Socket sTRX4 (Socket SP3r3) and Socket sWRX8 (Socket SP3r4) into the retirement home. Yu alluded to the new platform as the "TR5." Similar to how Socket SP3 and Socket sTRX4 share the same number of contacts (4,0946), we presume the same goes for Socket SP5 and the upcoming TR5.

According to a previous leak, AMD may launch Ryzen Threadripper 7000 in HEDT and workstation flavors. The vanilla HEDT chips reportedly support four-channel memory, 64 PCIe 5.0 lanes, eight PCIe 3.0 lanes, and overclocking. However, the workstation chips, likely the Pro variants, seemingly embrace eight-channel memory, 128 PCIe 5.0 lanes, and eight PCIe 3.0 lanes but lack processor and overclocking support.

With the Ryzen Threadripper Pro 5000 WX (Chagall) series, AMd omitted the non-Pro versions, resulting in the chipmaker ending HEDT chips. While AMD does have a Zen 4-powered Ryzen Threadripper on its roadmap, the chipmaker didn't specify whether it plans to release non-Pro and Pro versions. 

Yu was confident that the Ryzen Threadripper 7000 would land in the second half of this year, and whispers around the hardware circles ostensibly point to a September launch. If the dates are accurate, we could see an official appearance at Computex 2023.

Zhiye Liu
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Zhiye Liu is a Freelance News Writer at Tom’s Hardware US. Although he loves everything that’s hardware, he has a soft spot for CPUs, GPUs, and RAM.

  • AgentBirdnest
    I really can't wait to see the reviews for these!
    Would love to build a 32-core TR5 system for myself, but it's way out of my budget. : P Seeing other people do it and benchmark it is still fun, though.
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  • zecoeco
    Correction (1): 5995WX is Zen 3, not 4 as mentioned in the article.
    Correction (2): Epyc Milan is 7003, not 9003 as mentioned in this article.
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  • Amdlova
    My xeon 2697a v4 can do single tread 445 :) and burn 150w lol I will sell this one to get the 2696v4
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  • tracker1
    Hopefully these can actually handle more than 64GB of ram... Main reason I didn't upgrade to a 7950X(3D)...
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  • bit_user
    tracker1 said:
    Hopefully these can actually handle more than 64GB of ram... Main reason I didn't upgrade to a 7950X(3D)...
    If they go with RDIMMs, then EPYC has already sorted out the 2DPC issue. Besides more channels and more DPC, RDIMMs can have more ranks, which means they can come in larger sizes.
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  • jeremyj_83
    tracker1 said:
    Hopefully these can actually handle more than 64GB of ram... Main reason I didn't upgrade to a 7950X(3D)...
    The 7950X3D can handle 128GB RAM same as any other desktop Ryzen. It also looks like with nothing more than a BIOS update that Zen 4 will be able to support 24 & 48GB DIMMs. With 48GB DIMMs you could get 192GB RAM. The main issue is once you go 2 DIMMs per channel then you cannot run DDR5-6000 anymore.
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  • domih
    <<...AMD may launch Ryzen Threadripper 7000 in HEDT and workstation flavors...>>

    I'll believe it when I see it with my very own eyes.

    I'm a user of a TR 3960X with 256GB of memory as a development workstation + DBs + VMs + High speed networking. I remember when AMD killed the HEDT version of Threadripper for the 5000 series. The 3000 series HEDT was too good for end-users and cannibalizing the sales of the Pro version. They are plenty of start-up or professional users for which the HEDT version is sufficient, no need to pay twice the price for a Pro version.

    AMD can easily fight the INTEL W-3300 series on performance, efficiency and pricing with a TR 7000 Pro Series. I see little incentive for AMD to counter the low models with a HEDT version. Maybe a little bit more incentive to counter the low models of the INTEL W-2400 series.

    So if AMD comes up again with a HEDT TR 7000 series, that will be to counter the low models of the INTEL W-3300 and W-2400 series and indirectly "gap-protect" the 7950X revenues, while not going all the way up in terms of number of cores. In AMD shoes that's what I would do.

    The good times of the HEDT TR 3000 series, when AMD was very hungry, are over.
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  • jeremyj_83
    domih said:
    AMD can easily fight the INTEL W-3300 series on performance, efficiency and pricing with a TR 7000 Pro Series.
    Based on the performance leaks the TR 5000 series already fights the new Intel series. However, TR 5000 competing with SPR based W-3300 isn't unexpected as SPR Xeon Scalable only competes with Zen 3 Epyc in performance and not Zen 4 Epyc.
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  • bit_user
    jeremyj_83 said:
    However, TR 5000 competing with SPR based W-3300 isn't unexpected as SPR Xeon Scalable only competes with Zen 3 Epyc in performance and not Zen 4 Epyc.
    W-3300 is Ice Lake. The "hundreds" digit indicates the generation, with 4 signifying Sapphire Rapids. I think @domih was pointedly saying Ice Lake 3000-tier + Sapphire Rapids 2000-tier.
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  • jeremyj_83
    bit_user said:
    W-3300 is Ice Lake. The "hundreds" digit indicates the generation, with 4 signifying Sapphire Rapids. I think @domih was pointedly saying Ice Lake 3000-tier + Sapphire Rapids 2000-tier.
    Correct. In the article they mentioned a W chip and I thought it was the 3300 series. They actually showed the W9-3495 which is SPR. Ice Lake can compete with Rome and SPR competes with Milan. Still means that Genoa TR will be much faster than the SPR W series.
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