China's YMTC Preps Next-Gen Xtacking 4.0 NAND Tech

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China's Yangtze Memory Technology Corp is readying its next-generation 3D NAND memory architecture — Xtacking 4.0 — despite severe sanctions against the company, according to a document seen by Tom's Hardware. The company has no plans to increase the number of layers with the two Xtacking 4.0 devices currently in development, but the family may get broader over time.

YMTC's Xtacking 4.0 lineup that the company has disclosed to some industry peers so far includes 128-layer X4-9060 3D TLC and 232-layer X4-9070 3D TLC NAND devices, which could eventually be used to build some of the best SSDs. The company plans to use string stacking for both. So technically, it will produce 3D NAND arrays with 64 and 116 active layers, which enables wafer fab equipment makers to keep supplying it with necessary tools without directly breaking U.S. export rules (so long as they obtain an export license from the U.S. Department of Commerce).

Anton Shilov
Contributing Writer

Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.

  • A Saint
    Why can't the US sanction these Chinese companies for good?
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  • EyadSoftwareEngineer
    Because China is super power country with army of engineers and money, no one can sanction minds
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  • pug_s
    Sanctions will hurt US and Korean NAND manufacturers in the long run. You won't see these products today because they are selling it to other sanctioned companies like Huawei. Give it a few years and the Chinese will produce better and cheaper products than these countries putting them out of business.
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  • peachpuff
    EyadSoftwareEngineer said:
    Because China is super power country with army of engineers and money, no one can sanction minds
    Don't forget ip thieves
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  • bit_user
    pug_s said:
    Sanctions will hurt US and Korean NAND manufacturers in the long run. You won't see these products today because they are selling it to other sanctioned companies like Huawei. Give it a few years and the Chinese will produce better and cheaper products than these countries putting them out of business.
    They were on track to compete with US and Korean NAND-makers, anyhow. The sanctions are creating a speed bump, for them.

    Before the NAND sanctions, Apple was already preparing to switch over to using Chinese NAND. In order to help make it a viable alternative, they had orchestrated technology-transfer by recruiting top engineers from US and Korean companies, to bring their expertise to Chinese NAND-makers. The sanctions put a stop to that, and kept Apple from switching suppliers as it had planned.

    I really don't see how the sanctions are counterproductive, in the way that you claim. If your post is driven by facts, rather than emotion, please state your case.
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  • pug_s
    bit_user said:
    They were on track to compete with US and Korean NAND-makers, anyhow. The sanctions are creating a speed bump, for them.

    Before the NAND sanctions, Apple was already preparing to switch over to using Chinese NAND. In order to help make it a viable alternative, they had orchestrated technology-transfer by recruiting top engineers from US and Korean companies, to bring their expertise to Chinese NAND-makers. The sanctions put a stop to that, and kept Apple from switching suppliers as it had planned.

    I really don't see how the sanctions are counterproductive, in the way that you claim. If your post is driven by facts, rather than emotion, please state your case.
    Even when the top engineers working in China left, the YTMC managed to created more advanced NAND and SMIC managed to develop an 7nm chip for Kirin 9000 chip for the Huawei phones.

    CWk2lmdZSjwView: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWk2lmdZSjw

    The youtube video says all, Trump promoted fair competition by slapping sanctions for like to like to China. The more important thing is to promote IP protection betwen the countries. Biden on the other hand, promoted the CHIPS act which promoted US to invest in Fabs in US. The problem is that countries within the EU and Japan are doing the thing in the CHIPS act. Moreever, when you slap sanctions to these Chinese companies, they don't have to respect IP protection and in a few years, overcapacity will lead to falling prices and it is basically survival of the fittest. Considering that China's National Security policy to keep the semiconductor companies afloat, they will win in the end.
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  • bit_user
    pug_s said:
    Biden on the other hand, promoted the CHIPS act which promoted US to invest in Fabs in US.
    CHIPS doesn't have anything to do with this. CHIPS is just about building US semiconductor manufacturing capacity before China invades Taiwan.

    pug_s said:
    Moreever, when you slap sanctions to these Chinese companies, they don't have to respect IP protection
    They weren't before. So, no change here.

    pug_s said:
    in a few years, overcapacity will lead to falling prices and it is basically survival of the fittest.
    I assume by "overcapacity", you're implying that China will sell chips below-cost? Such situations can be controlled via tariffs and even further CHIPS-like subsidies.

    pug_s said:
    Considering that China's National Security policy to keep the semiconductor companies afloat, they will win in the end.
    That's what CHIPS is.
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