Microsoft Hides Windows 10's Offline Account Option

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  • kerberos_20
    u know u can always unplug network cable when installing if ya want offline account
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  • Giroro
    FYI logging into the window store 1 time converts your entire local windows account to an online account.

    Microsoft made it seem like I had to log into the Windows store to download a free coded to get HEVC back... You don't actually need to login to get free software from the windows store. You also don't need to pay $1 to get back a feature they removed.

    Just use this one
    Honestly, I'm a little suspicious they removed a common modern codec and started charging for it in order to funnel more people down the path of being tricked into setting up a Microsoft account.
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  • drtweak
    Giroro said:
    FYI logging into the window store 1 time converts your entire local windows account to an online account.

    Microsoft made it seem like I had to log into the Windows store to download a free coded to get HEVC back... You don't actually need to login to get free software from the windows store. You also don't need to pay $1 to get back a feature they removed.

    Just use this one
    Honestly, I'm a little suspicious they removed a common modern codec and started charging for it in order to funnel more people down the path of being tricked into setting up a Microsoft account.


    Actually no it doesn't. You can still log into the store and not convert it to a MS account login. I know because that is how my PC is setup on a clean install of 1903 as well.

    Also pretty sure you don't have to unplug your network card. you just have to know where to click. But yes MS is stupid for making a local account harder.

    Also 4) IT People who know what Domain is and that clicking it means making local account even if you don't join a domain. lol
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  • kerberos_20
    Giroro said:
    FYI logging into the window store 1 time converts your entire local windows account to an online account.

    Microsoft made it seem like I had to log into the Windows store to download a free coded to get HEVC back... You don't actually need to login to get free software from the windows store. You also don't need to pay $1 to get back a feature they removed.

    Just use this one
    Honestly, I'm a little suspicious they removed a common modern codec and started charging for it in order to funnel more people down the path of being tricked into setting up a Microsoft account.
    umm. i use VLC player or youtube, in both cases hevc works fine
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  • Giroro
    drtweak said:
    Actually no it doesn't. You can still log into the store and not convert it to a MS account login. I know because that is how my PC is setup on a clean install of 1903 as well.

    That was not my experience which was a few weeks ago. After logging into the Microsoft store (the app not the website) it started pulling data over from the microsoft account I had made for my Surface Pro, changed my login screen etc. After logging out from the store I had to go back into control panel and convert my entire user account back to local.
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  • bit_user
    Giroro said:
    Honestly, I'm a little suspicious they removed a common modern codec and started charging for it in order to funnel more people down the path of being tricked into setting up a Microsoft account.
    They probably removed it because it's not free. HEVC is covered by patents, and the MPEG-LA sets licensing fees that (AFAIK) must be paid on a per-player basis. Either these terms changed, or MS just decided not enough people use the codec for it to eat the cost of buying a license for all users.

    kerberos_20 said:
    umm. i use VLC player or youtube, in both cases hevc works fine
    That's because VLC bundles its own codecs.

    However, if you want to use Windows Media Player or load HEVC files in various media authoring tools, you need the Windows (DirectShow?) HEVC codec.
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  • kerberos_20
    bit_user said:
    They probably removed it because it's not free. HEVC is covered by patents, and the MPEG-LA sets licensing fees that (AFAIK) must be paid on a per-player basis. Either these terms changed, or MS just decided not enough people use the codec for it to eat the cost of buying a license for all users.


    That's because VLC bundles its own codecs.

    However, if you want to use Windows Media Player or load HEVC files in various media authoring tools, you need the Windows (DirectShow?) HEVC codec.
    codec packs usualy have hevc bundled...hevc is open source anyway
    https://codecguide.com/download_kl.htm
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  • bit_user
    kerberos_20 said:
    codec packs usualy have hevc bundled...hevc is open source anyway
    https://codecguide.com/download_kl.htm
    Open source does not mean it's free-to-use!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding#Patent_license_terms
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  • kerberos_20
    bit_user said:
    Open source does not mean it's free-to-use!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding#Patent_license_terms
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/hevc-video-extensions-from-device-manufacturer/9n4wgh0z6vhq?activetab=pivot:overviewtabhere its free to use from microsoft

    as for royalties...i have hardware decoder, in nvidia gpu..so teh royalty should be already paid
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  • USAFRet
    Giroro said:
    FYI logging into the window store 1 time converts your entire local windows account to an online account.

    No it does not.
    My local Standard user and local Admin user remain fully local.
    The rarely used MS account remains MS.
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