Igor's Lab Says Nvidia's 16-Pin Adapter Is to Blame for the RTX 4090 Melting Issue
Igor dissected Nvidia's adapter and found a poorly built design with weak soldering points
Igor's Lab recently published an article discussing Nvidia's melting 12VHPWR 16-pin power connectors on the RTX 4090 and why the power connectors are melting. Igor states that the cause for the melting is due to Nvidia's poorly built quadruple 8-pin to 16-pin power adapter, not the 16-pin connection standard itself.
He says Nvidia's adapter is badly engineered, to the point where it can risk damaging the 16-pin connection. Igor discovered that the thick wires coming from all four 8-pin connectors are wired directly to the six 12V pins on the 16-pin adapter (with the rest being ground pins). That in itself isn't a huge concern, but he says this was done via a very bad soldering job.
The solder is incredibly small and Igor says the base is "..a mere 0.2mm of thin copper with a width of 2mm per incoming wire..." This means Nvidia's soldering contacts could be way too small to keep the 8-pin wires connected even under normal bends, which could lead to spotty connections between the wires. Even using one of the best soldering irons, we wouldn't recommend trying to fix this yourself.
If you look at Igor's images, you can tell right off the bat that the soldering job looks poor. This was obviously outsourced to some other company, but regardless the soldering job looked very messy. Igor goes on to say that just lifting off the enveloping layer of the solder causes the connection to tear immediately.
Based on these findings, we can't help but question the continued use of the included Nvidia 'quadropus' adapters with RTX 4090 cards. If possible, you should replace the adapter with a proper 16-pin cable that's designed to plug directly into your PSU. Barring that, a third-party adapter made to higher standards should suffice. The default adapter — which based on our testing of RTX 4090 cards, is part of the package AIB vendors get from Nvidia along with the GPU and GDDR6X memory — appears to be a primary factor in the issues at hand.
If that's not an option, avoid any and all bends near the 16-pin connector on Nvidia's 8-pin adapter. You'll probably have to take your side panel off your case, but it's better to have an ugly computer than a damaged $1600 GPU.
Igor says Nvidia has already been informed about these issues regarding its 8-pin to 16-pin power adapter, so we should see an announcement by Nvidia regarding a fix for the issue. We suspect Nvidia will likely issue a recall and replace the original adapters with a new version that's much more reliable. After all, any component is only as strong as the weakest link. An over-engineered cooling solution on an RTX 4090 card will do you no good if it has to use a shoddy power adapter.
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RichardtST OK, no. As much as I'd like to tag Nvidia with this, the problem is still that the connector standard itself is to blame. Simply allowing that amount of power into such itty bitty little contact points is in and of itself a serious flaw. There is a reason that the wires of the four 8-pin plugs are that thick. They carry a lot of current and allow for a lot of tolerance. You are taking four massive power cables and mashing them all into one little connector. Doesn't work. The contact surface area of one single 8-pin connector is equivalent to the contact are of that entire 16-pin connector. It is, quite simply, a bad design.Reply -
Kamen Rider Blade According to Igor of Igor's Lab, it's the design of the Adapter internally and how they soldered the cables together that is the problem.Reply
But that design that the 3rd party manufacturer Astron did was shoddy & cheap.
Who in nVIDIA's upper management approved of Astron to do this should get fired. -
DRagor
In that case, why we don't hear such problems caused by Corsair PCIe 5 cables direct PSU to 16 pin? Or Seasonic ones?RichardtST said:As much as I'd like to tag Nvidia with this, the problem is still that the connector standard itself is to blame. -
PlaneInTheSky The fact Nvidia has not even sent out a warning, let alone recalled the products, is very disturbing.Reply
Nvidia is weighing the chance someone's house catches fire VS the profits they would lose by saying the product is a fire hazard.
I am very uncomfortable with how this is playing out. I have not seen this in any industry, where a product is clearly unsafe and could cause a large fire...and the company flat out does not even respond, acknowledge or do any recall.
The moment these connections started overheating and melting, there should have been an immediate shoutout by Nvidia to stop using the product until further notice.
If this ever does cause a house fire, Nvidia is going to get sued into oblivion. -
Phaaze88 Don't purchase 4090, and wait for the revised 4090Ti? It should have a higher quality adapter included.Reply -
DavidLejdar From what I understand, the 16-pin form factor is part of the issue though. After all, an 8-pin power connector is supposed to carry 150 Watt at most according to PCIe specs, isn't it? And from these 8 pins, 3 pins are for the power transfer, aren't they? So that's 12 pins needed for 600W, which get pushed onto 6 pins on the 16-pin socket, don't they?Reply
And then using a power adapter, which is less robust than the 8-pin connectors (and also putting the GPU socket at a place where there is more warm air than elsewhere), such isn't helpful of course. But using only 6 pins to receive 600W, that is quite exceeding the standard, even if 8-pin connectors have shown to be able to carry more than 150W, isn't it? -
passivecool
instead of speculating wildly in public, david, why don't you read the source article which was written by someone who knows what they are talking about and has analysed the situation very thoroughly?DavidLejdar said:From what I understand, the 16-pin form factor is part of the issue though. After all, an 8-pin power connector is supposed to carry 150 Watt at most according to PCIe specs, isn't it? And from these 8 pins, 3 pins are for the power transfer, aren't they? So that's 12 pins needed for 600W, which get pushed onto 6 pins on the 16-pin socket, don't they?
And then using a power adapter, which is less robust than the 8-pin connectors (and also putting the GPU socket at a place where there is more warm air than elsewhere), such isn't helpful of course. But using only 6 pins to receive 600W, that is quite exceeding the standard, even if 8-pin connectors have shown to be able to carry more than 150W, isn't it? -
PiranhaTech $1600-2000 for a card and they cheap out on the adapter. No excuse for this. They could easily raise the price for $20-40 and not have a house burn downReply
I didn't mind they using a new connector, however, I didn't expect these issues to crop up. I was a little nervous about the 4-to-1 connector, but it probably would have been fine... right? No. It really should have been a 90 degree one, or have the power connector more on the side of the card.
Hopefully Nvidia will make it simple and say "got card? Want adapter? Contact us"