GDDR7 Arrives: Samsung Outs World's First Chip, 32 GT/s for Next-Gen GPUs

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  • emike09
    And Nvidia will still skimp on VRAM and charge insane prices for higher-memory models. Looking at you, 16GB 4060 Ti.
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  • thestryker
    This announcement would have been significantly more meaningful if they were talking 32Gb capacities given the current trend of sliced bus width.
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  • bit_user
    IIRC, doesn't GDDR6X use PAM4 signalling?

    Also, I seem to recall something about GDDR7 using on-die ECC, like DDR5. That could help explain additional power consumption by the DRAM chips.
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  • thestryker
    bit_user said:
    IIRC, doesn't GDDR6X use PAM4 signalling?
    Yeah Micron debuted PAM4 with GDDR6X.
    bit_user said:
    Also, I seem to recall something about GDDR7 using on-die ECC, like DDR5. That could help explain additional power consumption by the DRAM chips.
    Everything starting with GDDR5 has had memory error correction, but there may be more specifics for GDDR7 as I haven't read up on it yet.
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  • bit_user
    thestryker said:
    Everything starting with GDDR5 has had memory error correction, but there may be more specifics for GDDR7 as I haven't read up on it yet.
    Source? I can't find any indication of that, on any GDDR standards, actually.

    And are we talking just at the interface level, on-die, or both?
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  • thestryker
    bit_user said:
    Source? I can't find any indication of that, on any GDDR standards, actually.

    And are we talking just at the interface level, on-die, or both?
    For VRAM I believe it's always been controller level except for ECC of course. I think the GDDR part is CRC (Micron docs refer to data link protection), but it has to be read by the controller it doesn't do it by itself.
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  • InvalidError
    emike09 said:
    And Nvidia will still skimp on VRAM and charge insane prices for higher-memory models. Looking at you, 16GB 4060 Ti.
    Based on all of the criticism and 16GB failing to smooth out some dips as expected due to the 128bits bottleneck, we can only hope Nvidia learned the lesson that 128bits simply wasn't enough for the 4060(Ti) and it won't do that again. Releasing generation upon generation of GPUs that get thrashed by reviews and rot on shelves is not good for business.
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  • hotaru.hino
    emike09 said:
    And Nvidia will still skimp on VRAM and charge insane prices for higher-memory models. Looking at you, 16GB 4060 Ti.
    Considering Samsung only announced a 16Gb (2GB) chip, they're going to have to charge more for VRAM anyway because that would require extra memory interfaces, which need L2 cache. Unless NVIDIA copies AMD, VRAM capacity and bus-width are going to be issues here.

    Really I find it more disappointing a 32Gb (4GB) chip wasn't announced.
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  • InvalidError
    hotaru.hino said:
    Really I find it more disappointing a 32Gb (4GB) chip wasn't announced.
    24Gbits chips are already getting somewhat on the large side at ~120sqmm. You are going to have to wait until either the next cell shrink, stacked DRAM packages (ex.: basically do HBM but switch out the HBM base die with a (G)DDRx one) or multi-layer DRAM chips for 32Gbits.
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  • thestryker
    InvalidError said:
    24Gbits chips are already getting somewhat on the large side at ~120sqmm. You are going to have to wait until either the next cell shrink, stacked DRAM packages (ex.: basically do HBM but switch out the HBM base die with a (G)DDRx one) or multi-layer DRAM chips for 32Gbits.
    It's not a packaging problem as Samsung already has GDDR6W which runs 32Gb because it combines two 16Gb in one package. That doesn't mean there isn't a feasibility of manufacture issue at hand for a single 32Gb chip of course.
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