Updated: Two Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPUs burned out on X870 motherboards — vendor investigates the Ryzen burnout issues
It could be a user error or a bad batch of MSI motherboards with a defective socket.
Update 11/15/2024 03:09 PT
MSI has released a brief statement which acknowledges the report, and states that it is investigating the issue.
"Recently, we received a user report indicating damage to an AMD Ryzen™ 7 9800X3D processor on an MSI MAG X870 TOMAHAWK WIFI motherboard. At MSI, we are fully committed to the quality of our products and have begun investigating this incident."
Original Article
One Redditor and one user from the Quasarrzone forums have provided feedback on how their Ryzen 7 9800X3D, one of the best CPUs, has burned out. Since the MSI MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi motherboard was the common denominator in both cases, we've contacted MSI for comment.
MSI told Tom's Hardware that a team is investigating the issues. The team could only replicate the issue when the CPU was improperly installed in the socket. The company continues to look for other ways to reproduce the problem. MSI also confirmed to Tom's Hardware that it hasn't received any reports of RMA.
The two Ryzen 7 9800X3D owners shared photographs of the CPU with burned contacts and the AM5 socket with burned pines. The pictures suggest that improper CPU installation was the probable cause of the burnouts. The chip likely wasn't seated correctly into the socket, so not all contacts made firm contact with the socket pins underneath, resulting in a short.
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As MSI alluded to, there is also a huge likelihood that user error was the culprit. AMD's mainstream Ryzen CPUs take advantage of a square form factor, making it very easy to install the CPU in the wrong orientation. Specifically, the user who published the Reddit report seems particularly likely to have inserted the CPU in the wrong orientation, as the user notes he could not post at all with the CPU installed.
However, the two photographs of the MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi socket contain one interesting detail. Closer inspection shows that the socket's plastic borders appear to be damaged. The protruding plastic may have prevented the users from adequately setting the CPU into the socket. If that's the case, there may be a bad batch of MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi with defective sockets.
However, we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves for now. The two cases of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D mishaps are different from the Ryzen 7000 burnouts. The former resulted from user error or a bad socket, whereas the latter was the product of motherboard firmware over-pushing the SoC voltage.
Aaron Klotz is a contributing writer for Tom’s Hardware, covering news related to computer hardware such as CPUs, and graphics cards.
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bit_user Some have noted the appearance of some pins being bent, which again suggests that poor electrical contact could've been the culprit. The CPU doesn't appear to have any deformation that would've caused the pin bending, so they were probably bent to begin with.Reply -
BTM18 The plastic frame is damaged. top left. The CPU was not installed correctly, or MB has a bad socket design/manufacture issues.Reply -
ingtar33 the damage to the socket seems to point to the chip being installed in the wrong orientationReply -
why_wolf There is of course also the danger that some small foreign object gets between the CPU and socket during install. Unlikely, but with the number of self installed CPUs in the world I'm sure there are at least a few failures from it.Reply -
ThatMouse A popular YouTuber offered to buy the CPU, hopefully the motherboard too, but it looks like it was installed improperly. He was getting the no CPU error, so it was never even detected.Reply -
raminpro BTM18 said:The plastic frame is damaged. top left. The CPU was not installed correctly, or MB has a bad socket design/manufacture issues.
100% you are true , he insert cpu in wrong direct , then push cpu down hard (cpu,socket bend)
then put cpu in true place but bend couse short connection and pins cant connect cpu truley
note= cpu dont have ,dont pproduce volt ,so cpu cant harm socket
check jay2cent youtube ,he say this too
GGGGGUYS for create pc never do it yourself (high risk),,, go find pro assemble shop (if any harware has problem,they can change it soon for free) -
Elusive Ruse Looks like someone with no prior experience of building a PC who didn’t bother following a step by step guide either. That socket looks like a mess.Reply -
Alvar "Miles" Udell However, the two photographs of the MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi socket contain one interesting detail. Closer inspection shows that the socket's plastic borders appear to be damaged. The protruding plastic may have prevented the users from adequately setting the CPU into the socket. If that's the case, there may be a bad batch of MAG X870 Tomahawk WiFi with defective sockets.
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newtechldtech AMD's mainstream Ryzen CPUs take advantage of a square form factor, making it very easy to install the CPU in the wrong orientation.
looking at the two pics . the user did not install it in the wrong orientation. look at the triangle mark on the edge of the socket and the burning landmarks on both the chip and socket.
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but the stepped notch looks like either it's defective, or the CPU is seating slightly riding on the notch or the side of the socket when the ILM locks down, which press and deform the socket? maybe it's a batch of defective socket, but will see if more cases pops out, something like this?newtechldtech said:looking at the two pics . the user did not install it in the wrong orientation. look at the triangle mark on the edge of the socket and the burning landmarks on both the chip and socket.
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