Tom's Talks Moorestown With The Father Of Centrino
With its new Atom platform, Moorestown, Intel has made a lot of exciting claims and hinted at significant changes in our computing future. All good stuff, but we need more answers. To find them, we sat down with Intel’s godfather of ultra-mobility.
On The Competition
TH: This now looks to be a catch-up race for Intel against ARM. Has Intel caught up? Or is it going to take one more generation? Either way, what’s the technical basis for your opinion?
TT: On power, if we take the top five smartphone designs and look at them on standby, video, browsing, and talk time using similar battery sizes, we are in the same range. On things like audio, we are actually showing in just one generation that we are better than the best ARM implementation out there. You can imagine where these numbers will go when we reach the next generation, Medfield, if we can make such dramatic improvements in our first smartphone product. So on power, bottom line, I would say we are competitive. We are not greater than them, we are competitive. On performance—compute, video, graphics, Web page downloads, and so on—we are at least 2x better across the board.
On integration, the ARM guys have a smaller number of chips than we do, right? We have two chips. Qualcomm Snapdragon, that would be one chip. But it doesn’t matter, because when I as a consumer go to buy a smartphone, I don’t ask how many chips it has. I look at how thin the design is and how long the battery life is.
The Aava Mobile design we showed is thinner and lighter than a BlackBerry Bold. So when we are able to deliver such small smartphones, the number of chips is irrelevant. And by the way, our cost structure is pretty damn good because of our process advantage. So, the grade I would give is we’re competitive on cost and integration, competitive on power, and our advantage is on performance. And obviously, you have to consider the x86 goodness on the software side.
Actually, to me its an understatement just to say 2x, because if you compare side by side, look at the Google or iPhone and how they deliver Web pages. Look at how fast we deliver. Look at the richness of the stuff on the devices, like all the Flash content. Then our graphics performance blows away all the benchmarks. By now, I presume you’ve seen first-hand that we are significantly faster than any of the other devices available in the marketplace today.
TH: [laughs] The competition doesn’t necessarily agree with your imminent dominance.
TT: No, but there is a lot of FUD out there. We see competitors comparing their tablet SKUs with our smartphone SKUs and comparing our netbook SKUs with their phone SKUs, right? That’s how sometimes they say their performance is higher or their power is better. If you do your own homework, you will find these apples to oranges comparisons.
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Before we launched Moorestown and brought it public, the perception built up that we couldn’t cut it on power, right? We’ve now debunked this myth. You saw the actual absolute numbers, and they don’t lie. If we can hit 21 mW on standby, that gives you more than 10 days of standby battery life. Job done. If we can give you 48 hours of music—I don’t know many people who want to listen to music more than 48 hours continuously, but still—job done. If we can give you five hours of video time using the same size battery as the Blackberry Bold, we’re where we need to be. Is there a perception out there that Moorestown power will be high? Yes...because we haven’t shared the data until now.
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whitecrowro "Why are we all here today? What is the meaning of Moorestown?Reply
Ticky Thakkar: Our vision was to.."
- pardon me, but all this naming sound like a Star Trek interview, on Tau Cygna (M class planet in Orion Nebula). -
cmcghee358 It would be nice to see Intel take a jab at discrete desktop graphics. If anything just to provide more competition for the consumer.Reply -
liquidsnake718 It would be nice to see that Zune HD ver 2.0 or even 3.0 with an updated Moorestown and a better Nvidia chip than the ion or ion2, with capabilities of at least 2.0ghz and 2gb of ram all the size of the zune.... imagine with 48hours on music, and 5 hours of video, this will only get larger as time goes by.... hopefully in a year or a year and a half we can see some TRUE iphone competition now with the new windows mobile out! We just need more appsReply -
Onus It never occurred to me to want an iPhone, but I definitely see one of these in my future.Reply -
matt314 cmcghee358It would be nice to see Intel take a jab at discrete desktop graphics. If anything just to provide more competition for the consumer....discrete desktop graphics is a pretty niche market. Without any experience in the field or specialized engineers, it would cost them alot of money in R&D, and they would not be able to beat ATI or nVidia (neither in performance nor sales)Reply -
cknobman Maybe its just me but I read the entire thing and Mr. Shreekant (Ticky) Thakkar came off as a arrogant ********.Reply -
Onus cknobmanMaybe its just me but I read the entire thing and Mr. Shreekant (Ticky) Thakkar came off as a arrogant dickhead.Merely disagreeing with you doesn't merit a "thumbs-down," but I didn't get that impression. Confidence, maybe; his experience no doubt backs that up, but I didn't find him arrogant. I liked how he called BS on the FUD.Reply
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zodiacfml I read his comments carefully and found that those were carefully chosen words. Confidence is very much needed to get the support everyone while remaining factual.Reply
In summary, I expect their device to be better performing than anything else in the future at the expense of a huge and heavy battery to power the Atom and the Huge screen making use of excess performance.
cknobmanMaybe its just me but I read the entire thing and Mr. Shreekant (Ticky) Thakkar came off as a arrogant dickhead. -
cjl zodiacfmlI read his comments carefully and found that those were carefully chosen words. Confidence is very much needed to get the support everyone while remaining factual.In summary, I expect their device to be better performing than anything else in the future at the expense of a huge and heavy battery to power the Atom and the Huge screen making use of excess performance.Did you read the article? One of the points raised was that the battery life should be just fine, contrary to many people's assumptions.Reply -
eyemaster He knows his product, the targets to meet and what they have accomplished. I'm sure they experimented on competing devices too. The man knows that they have a great product in their hands right now that beats all the others. That makes him confident, not arrogant.Reply