System Builder Marathon Q4 2014: Value Compared
Overclock And Benchmark Settings
Don and I both faced the same crisis as parts we requested disappeared as our main office finished up some related paperwork. Don paid $25 more to get a troublesome motherboard, and I paid $40 more to get an identical graphics card with extended warranty (upon registration, which doesn't make sense with our giveaway). Though I paid the bigger penalty in dollars, Don paid a far higher price in a system that quit working the instant he attempted to overclock.
Test Hardware Configurations | |||
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Row 0 - Cell 0 | Q4 $600 Performance PC | Q4 $1200 Performance PC | Q4 $1600 Performance PC |
Processor (Overclock) | Intel Pentium G3258: 3.2GHz, Dual-Core, O/C to 4GHz, 1.19V | Intel Core i5-4690K: 3.5-3.9GHz, Quad-Core, 6MB LLC | Intel Core i7-4790K: 4.0-4.4GHz, Quad-Core, O/C to 4.6GHz, 1.26V |
Graphics (Overclock) | MSI R9 270X: 1080MHz GPU, GDDR5-5600, O/C to 1140MHz, GDDR5-6000 | Zotac GTX 970: <1216MHz GPU, GDDR5-7010 | PNY GTX 980: <1216MHz GPU, GDDR5-7012, O/C to <1456MHz, GDDR5-7972 |
Memory (Overclock) | 8GB G.Skill DDR3-2133 CAS 9-11-10-28, O/C to DDR3-2400 CL 10-12-12-28, 1.60V | 8GB G.Skill DDR3-2133 CAS 9-11-10-28 at DDR3-1600 CL 11-11-11-28 SPD Defaults | 8GB G.Skill DDR3-2133 CAS 9-11-10-28, O/C to DDR3-2400 CL 10-12-12-28, 1.60V |
Motherboard (Overclock) | MSI H81M-P33: LGA 1150, Intel H81 Express, Stock 100MHz BCLK | Asus Z87-A: LGA 1150, Intel Z87 Express, Stock 100MHz BCLK | Biostar Hi-Fi Z97WE: LGA 1150, Intel Z97 Express, Stock 100MHz BCLK |
Case | DIYPC M89-R microATX | DIYPC Adventurer 9601R | Thermaltake Chaser A31 |
CPU Cooler | Intel Boxed Cooler | ID Cooling SE-213 | Phanteks PH-TC14PE 140mm |
Hard Drive | WD Blue WD10EZEX: 1TB, SATA 6Gb/s HDD | Kingston V300 SV300S37A/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA 6Gb/s (SSD) | Plextor M6S PX-256M6S 256GB SATA 6Gb/s SSD |
Power | EVGA 100-W1-500-KR: 500W, 80 PLUS Standard | EVGA 100-W1-500-KR: 500W, 80 PLUS Standard | Rosewill Capstone-750-M: 750W, 80 PLUS Gold |
Software | |||
OS | Microsoft Windows 8 Pro x64 | Microsoft Windows 8 Pro x64 | Microsoft Windows 8 Pro x64 |
Graphics | AMD Catalyst 14.4 | Nvidia GeForce 344.75 | Nvidia GeForce 344.75 |
Chipset | Intel INF 9.4.0.1017 | Intel INF 9.4.0.1026 | Intel INF 9.4.0.1026 |
How much will the lack of overclocking cost Don Woligroski in his machine’s overall performance? Can either of these $1000+ systems beat the performance value of Paul’s low-budget dual-core $588 build?
Benchmark Settings | |
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3D Games | |
Battlefield 4 | Version 1.0.0.1, DirectX 11, 100-sec. Fraps "Tashgar" Test Set 1: Medium Quality Preset, No AA, 4x AF, SSAO Test Set 2: Ultra Quality Preset, 4x MSAA, 16x AF, HBAO |
Grid 2 | Version 1.0.85.8679, Direct X 11, Built-in Benchmark Test Set 1: High Quality, No AA Test Set 2: Ultra Quality, 8x MSAA |
Arma 3 | Version 1.08.113494, 30-sec. Fraps "Infantry Showcase" Test Set 1: Standard Preset, No AA, Standard AF Test Set 2: Ultra Preset, 8x FSAA, Ultra AF |
Far Cry 3 | Version 1.04, DirectX 11, 50-sec. Fraps "Amanaki Outpost" Test Set 1: High Quality, No AA, Standard ATC, SSAO Test Set 2: Ultra Quality, 4x MSAA, Enhanced ATC, HDAO |
Adobe Creative Suite | |
Adobe After Effects CC | Version 12.0.0.404: Create Video which includes 3 Streams, 210 Frames, Render Multiple Frames Simultaneously |
Adobe Photoshop CC | Version 14.0 x64: Filter 15.7MB TIF Image: Radial Blur, Shape Blur, Median, Polar Coordinates |
Adobe Premiere Pro CC | Version 7.0.0 (342), 6.61GB MXF Project to H.264 to H.264 Blu-ray, Output 1920x1080, Maximum Quality |
Audio/Video Encoding | |
iTunes | Version 11.0.4.4 x64: Audio CD (Terminator II SE), 53 minutes, default AAC format |
LAME MP3 | Version 3.98.3: Audio CD "Terminator II SE", 53 min, convert WAV to MP3 audio format, Command: -b 160 --nores (160Kb/s) |
HandBrake CLI | Version: 0.99: Video from Canon EOS 7D (1920x1080, 25 FPS) 1 Minutes 22 Seconds Audio: PCM-S16, 48,000Hz, 2-Channel, to Video: AVC1 Audio: AAC (High Profile) |
TotalCode Studio 2.5 | Version: 2.5.0.10677: MPEG-2 to H.264, MainConcept H.264/AVC Codec, 28 sec HDTV 1920x1080 (MPEG-2), Audio: MPEG-2 (44.1kHz, 2 Channel, 16-Bit, 224Kb/s), Codec: H.264 Pro, Mode: PAL 50i (25 FPS), Profile: H.264 BD HDMV |
Productivity | |
ABBYY FineReader | Version 10.0.102.95: Read PDF save to Doc, Source: Political Economy (J. Broadhurst 1842) 111 Pages |
Adobe Acrobat 11 | Version 11.0.0.379: Print PDF from 115 Page PowerPoint, 128-bit RC4 Encryption |
Autodesk 3ds Max 2013 | Version 15.0 x64: Space Flyby Mentalray, 248 Frames, 1440x1080 |
Blender | Version: 2.68A, Cycles Engine, Syntax blender -b thg.blend -f 1, 1920x1080, 8x Anti-Aliasing, Render THG.blend frame 1 |
File Compression | |
WinZip | Version 18.0 Pro: THG-Workload (1.3GB) to ZIP, command line switches "-a -ez -p -r" |
WinRAR | Version 5.0: THG-Workload (1.3GB) to RAR, command line switches "winrar a -r -m3" |
7-Zip | Version 9.30 alpha (64-bit): THG-Workload (1.3GB) to .7z, command line switches "a -t7z -r -m0=LZMA2 -mx=5" |
Synthetic Benchmarks and Settings | |
3DMark 11 | Version: 1.0.5.0, Benchmark Only |
3DMark Professional | Version: 1.2.250.0 (64-bit), Fire Strike Benchmark |
PCMark 8 | Version: 1.0.0 x64, Full Test |
SiSoftware Sandra | Version 2014.02.20.10, CPU Test = CPU Arithmetic / Multimedia / Cryptography, Memory Bandwidth Benchmarks |
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g-unit1111 I was personally not a fan of the drab, bueraucrat approved case choices but overall these are some sweet rigs. I actually bought the MSI H81 / Pentium G3258 combo for my HTPC based off the recommendations here and have been really pleased with the results so far.Reply -
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AMD is over-represented in SBMs, with over 2/3 of prior graphics cards being Radeons and even one of the cards in this one being an R9 270X.14927184 said:I have little desire to read when no AMD CPU is involved
You should print that statement on foil before making your next hat :)
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Onus I hope Don is able to figure out what went wrong, then update his results with some kind of overclocking results. He did say he would try...Reply
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rayden54 A couple questions: I've heard that there are some new games that don't work at all on dual core processors including the famed Pentium G3258. Have you encountered this issue and would it effect your recommendations if it's true?Reply -
Bannereus Tough break for Don ... too bad this one couldn't be solved with a hacksaw xDReply
If overclocking wasn't part of the competition, the $1100 rig would have been the closest to beating the value of the budget entry that I've seen in a while.
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MasterMace If you're looking for value performance you can't use a card over $250, you have to SLI/XF 2 - 200-250 cards. But people aren't looking for that as frequently as it adds the cost of a much bigger power draw.Reply
I'm still hoping for a build that dual-sockets to get rid of the CPU bottleneck. -
g-unit1111 14928639 said:A couple questions: I've heard that there are some new games that don't work at all on dual core processors including the famed Pentium G3258. Have you encountered this issue and would it effect your recommendations if it's true?
The Pentium G3258 is a good processor, and people like it because it's a cheap overclock friendly solution where the low end Intel i3s are not. But as an owner of one, for gaming it really has no practical usage. The system that I use mine in is mainly a media playback machine.