Intel spends more on R&D than Nvidia and AMD combined, yet continues to lag in market cap — Nvidia spends almost 2X more than AMD
A lot of money.
AMD and Nvidia's R&D budgets were quite similar ten years ago, but in recent years, Nvidia has been leaving its GPU rival behind in investment in this critical activity. According to the latest figures, Nvidia's spending on new technologies is about two times higher than that of AMD, according to Tech Fund. But while Nvidia's R&D spending easily eclipses AMD's, it is still way behind Intel and Qualcomm, and they all pale behind Apple's R&D expenditure.
Regarding R&D spending, Nvidia invests in data center GPUs for AI and HPC (now its bread-and-butter business), client PC GPUs, networking gear, and DPUs that are used to support its data center products. Given how fast Nvidia's H100/H200 and B100/B200 datacenter GPUs are selling, the company can afford to fire up its research and development department on all cylinders to develop new GPUs.
Also, now that the company has set the stage with a yearly cadence of AI product releases, it is reasonable to expect it to increase its R&D spending. Indeed, it skyrocketed this year: as of July 28, Nvidia spent $3.090 billion on R&D this fiscal year, up a billion from last year.
As for AMD, it develops client and data center CPUs, client and data center GPUs, FPGAs, Pensando DPUs, and networking gear, which means the company can spend less than Nvidia on its product categories. Remember that AMD invests significantly in fundamental R&D technologies, such as high-bandwidth memory (HBM). As of June 29, AMD spent $1.583 billion on research and development this fiscal year. Yet, AMD is committed to releasing new AI GPUs every year.
While nowadays we tend to compare AMD to Nvidia and Nvidia to Intel, back in the day, we used to compare Intel to AMD, as these are the leading producers of processors based on the x86 instruction set architecture (ISA). Intel spends tremendous money on R&D: it spent over $16.5 billion in 2023, more than AMD and Nvidia combined.
Yet Intel spends on CPUs, GPUs, FPGAs, networking gear, quantum computing, and many other products. Even though the current chief executive, Pat Gelsinger, has reduced the number of product categories and projects that Intel is pursuing, Intel still manages dozens of product categories and thousands of SKUs.
But more importantly, Intel spends billions on new semiconductor production process technologies. Every new manufacturing process typically requires billions in upfront research and development investments. Intel also develops packaging technologies, which require a lot of R&D money.
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Company | Market Capitalization as of October 15, 2024 |
Apple | $3.586 trillion |
Nvidia | $3.237 trillion |
AMD | $255.39 billion |
Qualcomm | $196.69 billion |
Intel | $98.96 billion |
Qualcomm is, of course, another high spender on R&D. The company invests in system-on-chips for client devices like smartphones and PCs, RF technologies, and fundamental research for next-generation radio technologies (6G, 7G, etc.). Perhaps the most interesting part about Qualcomm is that among all the high-tech companies mentioned in this news story; it is the only one with a working 5G modem.
And yet, the biggest R&D spender is Apple. Apple is not precisely a semiconductor company, and it has to invest in various projects, from Ion-X glass for the entry-level Apple Watch to premium M-series Max and Ultra processors for high-performance MacBook Pro laptops and Mac Studio desktops. Depending on how you count (based on the company's filings with the SEC following its fiscal year or based on approximated calendar spending), Apple spent around $27 billion or $29.915 billion on R&D in 2023, which is more than AMD, Nvidia, and Qualcomm combined.
Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.
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redgarl This is probably the best indicator of the reason why Intel will probably never be able to stir the ship.Reply
Without the money for the R&D, Intel will just fall into a dead spiral leading to smaller budget, less R&D and less revenue. -
Pierce2623 I’ve said that a million times. Until Intel becomes a more efficient engineering led company again, they’ll continue to suffer. Also, moving to TSMC just to eke out some efficiency was a bad move. No matter how bad the yields or efficiency are Intel 4 would be more profitable than buying wafers from TSMC while still paying to keep the foundry running. I think even though the efficiency would be worse, they could’ve gotten higher performance out of Intel 4, too. I mean Intel 7 matched TSMC 5nm on peak performance even if it was much less efficient.Reply -
Dustyboy1492 Intel spends R&D on process development for fabs, AMD and Nvidia do not. Why is this news?Reply -
EzzyB Pierce2623 said:I’ve said that a million times. Until Intel becomes a more efficient engineering led company again, they’ll continue to suffer. Also, moving to TSMC just to eke out some efficiency was a bad move. No matter how bad the yields or efficiency are Intel 4 would be more profitable than buying wafers from TSMC while still paying to keep the foundry running. I think even though the efficiency would be worse, they could’ve gotten higher performance out of Intel 4, too. I mean Intel 7 matched TSMC 5nm on peak performance even if it was much less efficient.
Neither do Apple and Qualcomm. Maybe add in TSMC and Samsung for a better comparison?Dustyboy1492 said:Intel spends R&D on process development for fabs, AMD and Nvidia do not. Why is this news? -
bit_user Wow, what a clickbait title! Intel has fabs, which takes a lot of R&D. If you're comparing to AMD or Nvidia, then you would have to add their R&D spending to that of TSMC's, in order to get an equivalent figure.Reply
Okay, so you had just listed AMD's Pensando business, which makes networking gear. We all know AMD makes CPUs and GPUs. And guess what? They also make FPGAs, via Xilinx (thanks, @thestryker)! Pretty much the only area you listed that they're lacking is quantum computing. Gelsinger killed off a lot of other businesses Intel was in, such as SSDs and NUCs. So, that probably doesn't leave a whole lot of "other products"!The article said:Yet Intel spends on CPUs, GPUs, FPGAs, networking gear, quantum computing, and many other products.
Apple sells entire systems, so they have to do more hardware and software work, for that. They also develop their own operating systems, applications software, iCloud, the iTunes & app stores and have their own streaming service! Not to mention the financial services stuff they're doing and their automotive products group. All of that client-side and cloud-based software takes a lot of R&D spending to develop, maintain, and support.The article said:they all pale behind Apple's R&D expenditure.
Comparing any of them to Apple is probably an even more nonsensical comparison than comparing the others to Intel! -
shady28 This article reflects tremendous level of ignorance on the part of the author.Reply
AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm and Apple are 'fabless'. They do not have to do R&D on new process node tech. TSMC, Samsung, and Global Foundries do that for them.
Intel has fabs, which require huge R&D efforts to upgrade. Do I need to say this again? I guess so. Intel has fabs, Nvidia AMD Qualcomm and Apple do not. Fabs require R&D - a lot of R&D.
TSMC spent $6.3B on R&D in FY 2023.
The only remarkable thing here is that Intel has managed to catch up to TSMC and passed Samsung with process node tech, while becoming more competitive with AMD all at the same time. -
thestryker
You flipped the two company's FPGA arms.bit_user said:Okay, so you had just listed AMD's Pensando business, which makes networking gear. We all know AMD makes CPUs and GPUs. And guess what? They also make FPGAs, via Altera Xilinx! -
jed351 Apple spent quite a lot of money on electric self driving cars. I still don't understand why they even spent money on it. The step up from consumer electronics to cars is simply too big.Reply
And we are near 2025. How do we still get articles comparing the cost of fabless companies to companies with fabs? -
EzzyB
It happens. All of these huge companies take some giant swings and miss badly sometimes. Add in Apple's latest VR whatnot, Microsoft's as well as their purchase of Nokia, but really, Google is the Champion.jed351 said:Apple spent quite a lot of money on electric self driving cars. I still don't understand why they even spent money on it. The step up from consumer electronics to cars is simply too big.
And we are near 2025. How do we still get articles comparing the cost of fabless companies to companies with fabs?