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AMD's Ryzen 5000 CPU Refresh May Be Closer Than We Think

AMD Ryzen 5000 Processor
AMD Ryzen 5000 Processor (Image credit: AMD)

It may be that time of the year again when AMD starts refreshing its Ryzen processors if Twitter user Patrick Schur's information is accurate. There is a precedent of AMD refreshing its Ryzen processors, nevertheless, we recommend you approach the news with caution.

Unless AMD pulls a rabbit out of its hat, the new Ryzen 5000 (Vermeer) processors will in all likelihood acquire the XT moniker, following in the footsteps of the prior Ryzen 3000 XT-series. Everything should remain unchanged under the hood. The processors will continue to come out of TSMC's 7nm oven and arrive with the same, powerful Zen 3 cores that bring an impressive 19% IPC uplift.

AMD's last refresh has shown us that the amount of cores, L3 cache and TDP (thermal design power) limits remain intact. Instead, the refreshed Ryzen 5000 chips will likely offer marginal boost clock speed improvements. Once again, the chips will slot into the AM4 socket so existing AMD motherboards should only require a small and simple firmware upgrade to leverage the fresh Ryzen parts.

AMD Ryzen 5000 XT Specifications

ProcessorCores / ThreadsBase / Boost Clock Speeds (GHz)L3 Cache (MB)TDP (W)
Ryzen 9 5950XT*16 / 323.4 / 5.064105
Ryzen 9 5950X16 / 323.4 / 4.964105
Ryzen 5 5600XT*6 / 123.7 / 4.63265
Ryzen 5 5600X6 / 123.7 / 4.63265

*Specifications are unconfirmed.

Schur referred to the two mysterious Ryzen processors as being the B2 stepping for Vermeer. There are two codenames that are being thrown around. Given the specifications, the 100-000000059-60_50/34_Y is probably the Ryzen 9 5950XT, while the 100-000000065-06_46/37_Y likely alludes to the Ryzen 5 5600XT. Assuming that AMD follows the same path as the previous XT-series, we should see a Ryzen 7 5800XT as well. However, that might not be the case. AMD skipped the Ryzen 9 3950X last time, and it appears that the chip maker might give the Ryzen 9 5950X the XT treatment this time around. AMD is clearly switching things up.

The Ryzen 9 5950XT may just arrive with a 5 GHz boost clock, 100 MHz higher than the standard Ryzen 9 5950X. The thing is that many Ryzen 9 5950X samples can already reach or surpass the 5 GHz barrier through AMD's Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) technology. Therefore, we're unsure how the Ryzen 9 5950XT would fit in the picture. Furthermore, Schur listed the Ryzen 5 5600XT chip with a 4.6 GHz boost clock, which is the same for the existing Ryzen 5 5600X. These are probably specifications for early engineering samples, though, so don't take them to heart.

AMD launched its Ryzen 3000 XT-series lineup last year in the month of June. If the chipmaker respects the same time frame, then we could see the Ryzen 5000 XT-series as early as next month. If we were betting men, the processor launch would possibly be accompanied by the X570S motherboard announcement.

  • escksu
    Hmm... I have to say i am not impressed at all. The 3000 series XT simply increase boost clocks by a paltry 100-200mhz over the X series. But price is quite different. XT does not oc better than X series as well.

    If amd could do 5ghz all core oc, it will be awesome. But i am pretty sure its not going to happen.
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  • Samipini
    escksu said:
    Hmm... I have to say i am not impressed at all. The 3000 series XT simply increase boost clocks by a paltry 100-200mhz over the X series. But price is quite different. XT does not oc better than X series as well.

    If amd could do 5ghz all core oc, it will be awesome. But i am pretty sure its not going to happen.
    Really, all AMD needs to do is raise clock speeds without raising the price, even better, amd might lower the prices of x cpus. Ofc AMD might omit their stock cooler from xt cpu’s but most people who buy the xt will need their own cooler anyway
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  • escksu
    Samipini said:
    Really, all AMD needs to do is raise clock speeds without raising the price, even better, amd might lower the prices of x cpus. Ofc AMD might omit their stock cooler from xt cpu’s but most people who buy the xt will need their own cooler anyway

    Yes. If they can raise clocks without raising price, that would be great.
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  • mdd1963
    The obsession with 5 GHz as almost a minimum defacto useful clock speed is strong....; has been for years.

    As both Intel and AMD have each proven over the last decade....clock speed is not everything.

    Leave it to AMD to think it can tweak clock speeds up 100 MHz, a few percent at best, yet charge a 20% surcharge....

    <best Arnold voice> "Capitalism...!"
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  • Rdslw
    escksu said:
    Hmm... I have to say i am not impressed at all. The 3000 series XT simply increase boost clocks by a paltry 100-200mhz over the X series. But price is quite different. XT does not oc better than X series as well.

    If amd could do 5ghz all core oc, it will be awesome. But i am pretty sure its not going to happen.
    It depends on the part. 3600 XT was noticeably better than early 3600X's while 3700/3800 was literally no gain.
    either binning or later 3600X you've meet was already same chip as 3600XT's.
    I think XT was better than first series, but later on it was almost identical.
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  • jpe1701
    Personally I believe the only reason we didn't see non x skus this time around was the shortage. Unless Lisa Su all of a sudden magically turned into a terrible business person that is. Maybe these xt rumblings are a way to reintroduce Ryzen 5000 with more value oriented skus, at least one can hope.
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  • ginthegit
    escksu said:
    Hmm... I have to say i am not impressed at all. The 3000 series XT simply increase boost clocks by a paltry 100-200mhz over the X series. But price is quite different. XT does not oc better than X series as well.

    If amd could do 5ghz all core oc, it will be awesome. But i am pretty sure its not going to happen.

    AMD dont work off that ethos. They have their moderate OC, but focus on real solutions HW wise and not gimicks or cheats (like compiler hampering) to get a Ladder up to the top.

    But your point is well made, extra 200Mhz for cost is pathetic
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  • hannibal
    Just like last time. XT would be just a binning job. In the article it was said that most normal 5950x allready get to 5ghz. In the future only xt models will be higher clocked and the not so good will stay on 5950x bin.
    Hard to see what amd do… either amd increase xt above x in price, or xt takes x models prising gets some degrease. Depends on what Intel do.
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  • ddcservices
    What many(or even most) do not seem to understand, is that having multiple SKUs that are only different due to clock speed shows that not all chips are able to hit the target clock speed of the top model. AMD using 8 cores per CCD means that multiples of 6 or 8 are going to be used for the core count. If all of them clock to the target for the current X chips, then why release slower versions? OEMs are looking for lower priced chips, so THEY are the ones that will scoop up the chips that fail to clock as high.
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  • jwmillz
    escksu said:
    Hmm... I have to say i am not impressed at all. The 3000 series XT simply increase boost clocks by a paltry 100-200mhz over the X series. But price is quite different. XT does not oc better than X series as well.

    If amd could do 5ghz all core oc, it will be awesome. But i am pretty sure its not going to happen.
    I don't really see the point of them doing this at all when they can't even supply the chips they already have. Even if it is just a tweak of existing product lines, there aren't any you can really buy anyway. I feel like it renders the whole idea moot.
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