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John Carmack Gives PlayStation 4 a Thumbs Up

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Carmack seems to like the PlayStation 4 so far...

While legendary id Software developer John Carmack didn't do somersaults or buy the entire PlayStation 4 team a round of drinks (at least not that we know of), he gave a virtual thumbs up on Twitter after the console was revealed Wednesday night. This is a good thing for Sony given Carmack wasn't quite so thrilled with the previous Cell-based PlayStation 3.

"I can't speak freely about PS4, but now that some specs have been made public, I can say that Sony made wise engineering choices," he said Friday morning via Twitter.

Carmack said last year that he wasn't particularly excited about the next-generation console hardware. He predicted that Sony and Microsoft will fight over gigaflops and teraflops and more, but in the end, their efforts won't make a difference. Bringing a new gaming experience will be the answer as Nintendo proved with the launch of its Wii console. Both Sony and Microsoft tried to mimic Nintendo's success, but both technologies felt somewhat "tacked on" compared to the Wii's native motion-sensing experience.

"In many ways, I am not all that excited about the next generation," he said. "It will let us do everything we want to do now, with the knobs turned up. Take a current game like Halo which is a 30 Hz game at 720p. If you run that at 1080p, 60 frames with high dynamic frame buffers, all of a sudden you've sucked up all the power you have in the next-generation. It will be what we already have, but a lot better. You will be able to redesign with a focus on DirectX 11, but it will not really change anyone's world."

Back in December, he predicted that the next-generation consoles will still target 30 frames per second instead of shooting for twice that amount. Carmack seemingly backed up a comment made by DICE rendering architect Johan Andersson who defended the studio's decision to lock Battlefield 3 at 30fps. He said that "huge levels, lots of players, great effects, destruction, vehicles and varied gameplay is more important than 1080p."

Even Epic Games chose to leave Gears of War 3 at 30fps despite being able to push the framerate further. "Our target is, and shall remain, 30fps," former Epic superstar Cliff Bleszinski said in an interview. "When asked about 60 we always respond that we'd rather have the extra juice to put more on screen and stick with 30."

But that was a "generation" ago. Will developers be more inclined to push tons of content and visual effects at 60fps on the new hardware sets? In the case of Sony, it seems the company has made the right hardware decisions with the PlayStation 4, a far different story than what was heard and seen from developers who struggled with the PlayStation 3's heterogeneous multi-core Cell processor and toolset.

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    feeblepenguin , February 24, 2013 3:09 AM
    Breaking news! John Carmack Gives PlayStation 4 a Thumbs Up!
    Then the article is only semi related and seems to push that it will only be the same. But better.
    Then it ends on a questioning note.
    Dear tom, write better titles!
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    bison88 , February 24, 2013 3:29 AM
    Got to give it to Sony. As crappy as the people were presenting the PS4 news during a 2 hour presentation, their direction is actually sucking this Microsoft fanboy in. Either way it'll be a difficult choice for anyone to choose between this generation of consoles. Console specific titles will nail people to the wall. On the plus side it seems as though consoles are going to a near-PC specs which not only may lead to much better ports, but a return of PC Gaming.

    It's a great year to be a gamer.
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    Cons29 , February 24, 2013 5:51 AM
    i like him a lot better than steve jobs
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  • 21 Hide
    feeblepenguin , February 24, 2013 3:09 AM
    Breaking news! John Carmack Gives PlayStation 4 a Thumbs Up!
    Then the article is only semi related and seems to push that it will only be the same. But better.
    Then it ends on a questioning note.
    Dear tom, write better titles!
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    wannabepro , February 24, 2013 3:13 AM
    I'd rather sucky titles than none at all.

    Imho.
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    bison88 , February 24, 2013 3:29 AM
    Got to give it to Sony. As crappy as the people were presenting the PS4 news during a 2 hour presentation, their direction is actually sucking this Microsoft fanboy in. Either way it'll be a difficult choice for anyone to choose between this generation of consoles. Console specific titles will nail people to the wall. On the plus side it seems as though consoles are going to a near-PC specs which not only may lead to much better ports, but a return of PC Gaming.

    It's a great year to be a gamer.
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    s997863 , February 24, 2013 3:38 AM
    "wise engineering choices" = bribing for good PR?
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    therabiddeer , February 24, 2013 3:43 AM
    suprhas carmack even done anything worthwhile in the last 10 years?

    He has a hand in most every technological innovation for gaming. Maybe not necessarily in the creation, but certainly in other aspects. He is a really brilliant guy, watch this keynote (long, but oddly interesting the whole way through) from quakecon
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt-iVFxgFWk
    He is a genius that is actually innovating.
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    hajila , February 24, 2013 3:56 AM
    John Carmack kicked my butt and everyone else on my team on Doom 2 back in the BBS days. He needs nothing else to earn my respect.
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    b4gg , February 24, 2013 4:09 AM
    John carmack is the triple A dev/ engine dev equivalent of what Jonathan blow is in the indie games scene.
    A lot of people may have bad things to say such as arrogance or over rated but the mans mind is one that is truly unmatched in his industry... he builds space rockets for fun and takes on reinventing vr for a laugh... he is truly a god among men (in his industry)
    We need more people like him with a critical mind but a very open way of thinking, how many other companies open source there shit when they release their new engine?
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    aggroboy , February 24, 2013 4:17 AM
    suprhas carmack even done anything worthwhile in the last 10 years?

    AAA title Rage, multitexture technology, rejuvenated VR technology, Armadillo Aerospace, father, etc
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    Quadacon , February 24, 2013 5:04 AM
    I'm going to stick with Xbox
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    Cons29 , February 24, 2013 5:51 AM
    i like him a lot better than steve jobs
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    viper666 , February 24, 2013 6:01 AM
    @linuxlowdown

    Actually its only for the future SoC

    http://technewspedia.com/rumor-intel-x86-socs-will-not-support-dedicated-gpus/
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    linuxlowdown , February 24, 2013 6:11 AM
    viper666@linuxlowdownActually its only for the future SoChttp://technewspedia.com/rumor-int [...] ated-gpus/


    I hope this is correct viper666. We'll have to see. But if it is true that Intel plans to cut out AMD and Nvidia discrete GPUs, I will view it as more of a move against Nvidia. Apparently, Nvidia has not returned a profit on their Tegra line. If their GPU business were to be cut, Nvidia would be in hot trouble. Maybe Intel wants to put Nvidia into such a position where it has no option but to sell to Intel? AMD, however, could survive such a move with their APUs.
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    memadmax , February 24, 2013 6:53 AM
    Before you get all googly googly over the PS4 being x86 based, remember this: Sony stuck in that secondary chip to make it all nice and closed system.
    Have fun.
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    helipro , February 24, 2013 7:54 AM
    Rage was a bit more tricky than just a sellout. He has spoken on the subject (and said sorry one might add) a few times. An entire career of amazing things and innovation to call him a sellout after one mistake is a bit extreme :-P
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    cRACKmONKEY421 , February 24, 2013 8:04 AM
    Carmack is still one of my most favorite nerds. Been that way since the early 90s for me. He has made some weird decisions though.

    This article was all over the place BTW, but so am I sometimes.

    30 FPS is way too low. If they used mouse aim, they would really feel the difference. I find it hard to stand 60 FPS. I waited a long time to switch from CRT mainly because of the 60Hz max on most flat panel monitors. Very disappointed in Carmack and Rage because of that. He though about it a lot, then decided to put a hard cap on 60 FPS with Rage. WTF... why make it so we can't adjust the FPS cap Carmack?
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    JoeMomma , February 24, 2013 8:46 AM
    I loved every game that Carmack has made. RAGE was not a failure IMO. It always ran great on my machine and when problems popped up they were very quickly patched. Introducing the new idTECH 5 engine was so radical there were bound to be a few issues.
    The game RAGE is awesome fun. Some people complained that the mission was too short. That is true if you are trying to set a record to finish it first, but there is plenty of room for exploration and side missions. I played the game though 3 times last year. I found the introduction of driving to the FPS genre very innovative and fun. After all he tested it with his kids to make sure they thought it was fun.
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    falchard , February 24, 2013 9:00 AM
    Carmack is a poor game designer. I think everyone can admit the games he has been on have had a shallow gameplay experience. However, Carmack is not known for his superior game design skills. Carmack is known for his engines. id Tech 5 Engine is without a doubt the most advanced game engine on the market. For him to say the hardware on the PS4 is good just means he can utilize the hardware well to make an engine for it.
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    susyque747 , February 24, 2013 10:30 AM
    QuadaconI'm going to stick with Xbox

    From what I am hearing good luck selling or buying a used game and make sure your internet is on and their spy camera is on if you want to play.
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