Best offers
|
Edge Z30 Midsize Desktop (2.66GHz... | $1099.00 Velocity Micro More info |
|
iMac All-In-One Desktop (3.06GHz... | $1699.00 AppleStore.com More info |
|
Compaq Presario CQ5210F Mini-Tower... | $399.98 STAPLES More info |
|
Pavilion p6210f Mini-Tower Desktop... | $526.98 STAPLES More info |
|
Pavilion p6240f Mini-Tower Desktop... | $699.98 STAPLES More info |
System Builder Marathon, Sept. '09: AMD System Value Compared
Our response to reader-demand for AMD systems focuses on the company’s penchant for gaming value across three budget classes. How do these fully-optimized systems compare to each other in ultimate performance and value? Read More
-
System Builder Marathon, Sept. '09: $2,500 Performance PC
Reader suggestions and previous test results defined most of this month’s highest-priced build. Will the extra planning and testing pay off in clear overclocking and performance superiority? We use Radeon HD 4890s, SSDs, and 8GB of RAM to find out! Read More
-
System Builder Marathon, Sept. '09: $1,250 Enthusiast Build
With a limited budget and high-resolution gaming in our sights, we spice up this quarter's $1,250 build with as many graphics cards as we can fit into a mid-range chassis. By popular request, this one's an all-AMD build with plenty of horsepower. Read More
Partners
The Games selection
violent :
Interactive Buddy
Unwind on your interactive buddy: Do anything you want to him, it will earn you money, and you can buy other stuff to torture him with.
|
kids :
Bob
Throw bubbles so as to make the ones that appear in the game disappear. For this, use the Right / Left arrow keys to duck or move about, and the...
|
Sponsored links
AMD Radeon HD 4830: R.I.P.
Next news- Email |
- Print |
- Comments (26) |
- Share
There's talk that the latest batch of AMD's Radeon HD 4830 GPUs may be the last, as many partners wouldn't even let the chips come in through the front door. As it stands, it looks as though the 4830 will be heading out to the pasture soon.
With all the re-branding and the re-pricing going around as of late, it's easy to get confused as to what GPU outperforms the other, which offers the best value for the money, and why manufacturers think a batch of letters and numbers actually tell consumers what is under the GPU hood. Whatever happened to the days of simplicity? Of single-word descriptions that said "buy me" instead of "decipher me?"
Still, with all the letters and numbers thrown about like a knocked over Scrabble game, it's amazing to see industry partners pick and choose exactly what will fly, what will die, and what will simply be ignored. As if portraying the role of a neighbor that just won't go away, insistently knocking even when all the lights are out, AMD's HD 4830 GPU is discovering that its not welcome anymore.
Why? Because apparently AMD has shipped the last batch of the HD 4830 GPU, now considered old technology by industry partners in light of the upcoming RV740 offering a similar pricetag. Many partners just don't want any extra 4830 GPUs coming through the door despite ATI, and are trying to get rid of what's already in stock. Once the RV740 sees the light of day, there's a good chance these partners will make the 4830 dirtier-than dirt cheap, cheaper than the $99 pricetag attached to the RV740 when released.
The problem 4830 faces is that the RV740 performs slightly better in benchmarks while offering a cheaper price point. The upcoming 55nm RV740 GPU boasts a core clock of 650 MHz, 3200 MHz GDDR5 memory using a 256-bit memory interface, 640 shaders, 16 ROPS, and 32 TMUs. The 4830 performs just a little slower, featuring a core clock of 575 MHz, 1800 MHz GDDR3 memory using a 256-bit memory interface and so on.
For consumers pinching pennies, either offering should suffice, however if the soon-defunct 4830 takes a huge nosedive in price, it might actually come out looking more attractive to a lonely and desperate wallet looking to unload its love. Then again, for what the RV740 offers, a $99 pricetag is extremely tasty. Perhaps a decision like this is best left up to a coin... if there's one to spare, that is.
Source : Tom's Hardware US
Wow this is good news(at least for me). Anyway will i get any performance boost if i upgrade from 4650?
Anyway i mean very significant boost. sorry for double post
OMG! WTF! I JUST BOUGHT A HD 4830!!!
Silluete: You should, yes. 4600s are budget/midrange, 4800s are gaming.
They're just stopping production because their GPU lineup is so cheap overall and they can't lower the price any more on the 4830.
8_bit: So?
I'm looking to get an xfire setup in the future and either 4830's or that new GPU look pretty tasty for the task
Oh and Silluete, the 4830 is significantly better then the 4650, I owned the 4670 which is just slightly worse then a 9600 GT, the 4830 is slightly better then the 9800 GT and will significantly up the framerates.
yea i hate the the GPU name schemes now. the only time i knew for sure what was the top Nvidia card was when they had the TNT2 card and then they added the "ultra" after it LOL
Almost every rumor I've read pointed to the RV740 being the first 40nm chip.
That's kind of a bummer if it's 55nm, fortunately it will still use less power than the RV770 since the extra transistors are removed rather than simply disabled.
"The problem 4830 faces is that the RV740 performs slightly better in benchmarks while offering a cheaper price point."
How do you know all this? Did i miss your benchmark? They're only rumors and by the way the rumors also said that it will be 40nm. Is this based on that chinese web site review? I hope not...
yeah, this is a real letdown. it was expected to be 40nm and 128 bit (no power connector required?) and it's neither. i just hope the 896 gflop performance approximation holds up
With prices expected to drop again in another 2~3 months. There is really no need for the part as there is only a $30 difference between it and the HD4850.
"How do you know all this? Did i miss your benchmark? They're only rumors and by the way the rumors also said that it will be 40nm. Is this based on that chinese web site review? I hope not"
Guru3D has done a preview with benchmarks for it already.
It's not like the RV740 is going to be too much faster. It will only be a small improvement, but the RV740 is going to be much cheaper to produce and consume less power than current 4830 cards. That being said I would look foward to seeing 4830s under $80, especially when two such cards in crossfire can outperform much more expensive single cards like the 4870 or GTX260 sp 216, and even the GTX280 in some cases.
Oh and Silluete, the 4830 is significantly better then the 4650, I owned the 4670 which is just slightly worse then a 9600 GT, the 4830 is slightly better then the 9800 GT and will significantly up the framerates.
Thanks Snake, maybe i'll just wait until 4890 out.
RV740 is 40nm. You have 55nm in the article.
So the new ATI performance lineup is 4890 > 4870 > 4770? Both 4830 and 4850 are going to be replaced by 4770.
GREAT, now the 4850 can drop even more =]
Oh and Silluete, the 4830 is significantly better then the 4650, I owned the 4670 which is just slightly worse then a 9600 GT, the 4830 is slightly better then the 9800 GT and will significantly up the framerates.
slightly worse than a 9600 gt ???? have you acvtually benched a 9600 Gt?? the 4670 is miles below it, a 9600 Gt is only about 5% - 10% slower than a 8800/9800 gt .. i think you are thinking of the 8600 gt WHICH is ALSO a much much slower card than the 9600 GT ... note even a toms review of the 9600 when it first came out made mention that it is considerably more pwoerful than the old 8600 the 9600 gt was NOT a rebranding of the 8600 the 8600 was a rebranding of a 7000 part , while the 9600 gt was a 8000 part with only half the shaders turned on (has 64 as opposed to the 128 shaders on teh 8800/9800 gt ) Tom's old article even made mention that it was increadible that performance was only slightly lower on teh card given it had half the shaders disabled EVERY thing else about this card is mathced exactly to the 8800/9800 gt
while the 8600 had a smaller memeory buss and much lower clocked GPU and ram.
So shoudl get your facts striat before making coments about a card being crappy by saying are reallyc rappy card is only slgihtly worse than it , when in fact the 9600 gt is FAR more powerful than a 4670.
they really need to cut down on the many version they make. Nvidia and ATI both have too many versions, then the manufacture as even more versions on it plus versions on those. Then you through re-branding in there it becomes just stupid.
You have from nvidia with 9400, 9500, 9600, 9800, with both GS, GT, GTS, GTX options (then there is the damn mobile versions).
The 4600 series is better for office work for the occasional gamer who loves to play 2-3 year old or older games!
The 4600 series also offer much better performance per watt (have a much lower power consumption),and are probably the best cards for an HDTV PC.
I will probably be waiting for the better card then!
The 4830 was more then enough for me,so whatever is coming might certainly be too. (I'm not playing crysis,so name me one game that this 4830 can not play fluently at my 1280x800 monitor).
I think TOMS need to do the graphics card lineup again. And perhaps see if it has become more beneficial to buy a $500-800 computer @ walmart, or buy parts and fix a PC yourself?
I mean, they offer $600 at their stores so expensive.
As long as I own a OEM copy of Windows,am I better off buying my PC or fixing one from newly bought parts?
I meant, the pc's they offer don't match up on their pricetag. If I see Toms is able to create a $800 gaming pc, that get sold for $1000 or more @ walmart, I begin to think...
while the 8600 had a smaller memeory buss and much lower clocked GPU and ram.
So shoudl get your facts striat before making coments about a card being crappy by saying are reallyc rappy card is only slgihtly worse than it , when in fact the 9600 gt is FAR more powerful than a 4670.
I told him that a 4830 would give him quite a bit better framerates then a 4650. Explain to me how that turned into a "9600 GT is a crappy card".
The 9600 GT isn't "far more powerful" then a 4670. It is just more powerful - like I said. It beats the 4670 soundly in two games, Mass Effect and MS Flight Simulator. It loses to the 4670 in Assassins Creed and is virtually tied with it in Crysis.
I have never benched a 9600 GT but there is such a thing as reviews and I read quite a few. I picked up my 4670 for about $60 after rebate when the cheapest 9600 was ~$100. You said that the 9600 is a rebranded 8000 series part - correct! It is the 8800M GTS or 8800 GS.
I honestly don't see what your post is trying to accomplish. I say the 4670 is slightly worse then the 9600 GT - and all of sudden some flamer comes along screaming "WTF !!! the 9600 is amazing and the 4670 sucks something aweful"
see benchmarks:
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts [...] .html?prod[2067]=on&prod[2254]=on
SS: Some people lack the maturity to post messages on here.
R.I.P !?
i just planning to buy this card ......
-__-"
This is good I just picked up one of these on new egg for like 65 dollars and it's a nice msi brand card to boot so get them while there hot. I don't game to much but runs supreme commander on both my 20inch flats fine @ 1600 by 900 everything on high.