Giga Computing, the enterprise arm of Gigabyte, recently announced a couple of servers based on AMD's Zen 4 processors. But, more importantly, the manufacturer confirmed that the successor to the Ryzen 7000 lineup, which offers some of the best CPUs on the market, will arrive later this year.
Like the AM4 socket, the AM5 socket will house several generations of Ryzen processors. AMD has given its word to support the AM5 socket until 2025. It's common knowledge that Zen 5 will succeed Zen 4. AMD's last desktop processor roadmap has Zen 5 for 2024. Gigabyte's statement implies that AMD may have accelerated the launch date for Zen 5 so the next-generation processors could hit the retail market before the end of the year. There is a possibility the next-generation chips that Gigabyte's referring to could be the rumored Zen 4 refresh (Zen 4+), though.
"Even though these new products are entry-level servers, CPU support does not end here and the AM5 platform is supported until at least 2025. In addition, the next generation of AMD Ryzen desktop processors that will come out later this year will also be supported on this AM5 platform, so customers who purchase these servers today have the opportunity to upgrade to the Ryzen 7000 series successor," wrote Gigabyte in its press release.
Zen 5 lacks a commercial name, but assuming that AMD follows the naming sequence, the upcoming chips should debut as Ryzen 8000. AMD has grown fond of using the names of famous painters as codenames for the chipmaker's previous generations of desktop Ryzen processors. For example, Ryzen 7000 was Raphael, Ryzen 5000 was Vermeer, and the earlier Ryzen 3000 was Matisse. Likewise, AMD alludes to Zen 5 as Granite Ridge, seemingly returning to the days of using places. Ryzen 1000 and Ryzen 2000 were Summit Ridge and Pinnacle Ridge, respectively.
There is little information available about Zen 5. AMD only confirmed that Granite Ridge uses an "advanced node," which limits the possibilities to TSMC's 3nm or 4nm process nodes. A very early leak claims that Zen 5 will use the latter. But 3nm variants will likely arrive at a later date. Furthermore, AMD has previously referred to Zen 5 as a "new grounds-up microarchitecture," implying Zen 5 won't just be a simple upgrade over Zen 4. Nevertheless, the general expectation is that Zen 5 could deliver substantially higher performance and efficiency than Zen 4.
It wasn't a long time ago that AMD unleashed the company's Ryzen 7000X3D V-Cache processors. However, it seems premature that the chipmaker will launch Zen 5 since the company had targeted a 2024 release. AM4 was the home to four generations (Zen, Zen+, Zen 2, Zen 3) of desktop Ryzen processors. AM5 with Ryzen 7000 in September 2022. With less than a year under its belt, there's reportedly a successor waiting in place. There's no doubt that AM5 will have a similar or even superior longevity than AM4.
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AM4 was the home to four generations (Zen, Zen+, Zen 3, Zen 4)
Should be: Zen, Zen+, Zen 2, and Zen 3.
As for whatever is coming this year, it sure sounds like it'll be TSMC N4. Supposedly, AMD and others are waiting for N3E, which I think isn't supposed to be ready yet. I thought Apple was pretty much the only customer of regular N3.
And the micro-architecture could be Zen 4+? This wouldn't be unprecedented - I believe AMD had planned & cancelled releasing Zen 3+ on TSMC N6, for the desktop. If Zen 5 won't be ready until the latter part of 2024, then it would make sense for them to do a Zen 4 refresh. Maybe try to improve the thermal solution, while they're at it. -
kwolf667 Kinda annoying, makes me think it's better to wait for this instead of getting the 7800x3dReply -
hannibal kwolf667 said:Kinda annoying, makes me think it's better to wait for this instead of getting the 7800x3d
There allways will be something better coming later. At one point you just have to pull the tricker!
If you don+t need new CPU now… don´t buy. After the AMD 8000 series is released… 9000 series is coming soon enough! And 9000 series will be better and faster. And so on and on… -
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You're right of course, but if the next gen is just half a year away...? Maybe I should just play tetrishannibal said:There allways will be something better coming later. At one point you just have to pull the tricker!
If you don+t need new CPU now… don´t buy. After the AMD 8000 series is released… 9000 series is coming soon enough! And 9000 series will be better and faster. And so on and on… -
zecoeco I don't think Zen 5 will be named as Ryzen 8000. Instead, it should be Ryzen 9000.Reply
Zen 3 Ryzen was 5000, Zen 3 Epyc was 7000. Now Zen 4 Became Ryzen 7000, Zen 4 Epyc 9000.
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I've already said I doubt it's Zen 5, but that's based on extremely scant information. Even if it is, you need only look to how well the 5800X3D held up in gaming vs. the non-3D 7000-series to know that 7800X3D is probably a fairly safe buy.kwolf667 said:You're right of course, but if the next gen is just half a year away...? Maybe I should just play tetris
However, what @hannibal said is (mostly) true. There are better and worse times to buy, but the best strategy tends to be waiting until you have a need and then buying the most appropriate product at that time. Sometimes, it'll be on the cusp of a new product launch and worth waiting just a little bit longer. Even if you are buying on the eve of a new launch, at least prices are usually discounted. -
There is a possibility the next-generation chips that Gigabyte's referring to could be the rumored Zen 4 refresh (Zen 4+), though.
According to Gigabyte's wording that may not be the case. First of all, it says ‘next-generation’, which implies this could be the Zen5 architecture, IMO, and not a refresh like Zen 4+.
Why would a refresh be called as next-gen ? I mean it can, but next-gen most likely refers to a new series successor.
This same para also states the following, "upgrade to the ‘Ryzen 7000 series successor", which is typically not a word to be used for series refresh like Zen4+, hence it could be the ZEN 5 platform. So these two terms, "upgrade", and "next generation" could be referring to the ZEN 5, though I'm not fully sure.
Just a guess. And yes, the next gen is codenamed as GRANITE RIDGE, Ryzen 8000 series, but this nomenclature is not set on stone. It could also be Ryzen 9000. AMD might make last moment changes before releasing the next-gen platform.
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Very interesting observation, but I think it was more by happenstance.zecoeco said:I don't think Zen 5 will be named as Ryzen 8000. Instead, it should be Ryzen 9000.
But that's because AMD got its APUs skewed by 1000 from the desktop CPUs with the same generation core, and jumped their desktop models from 3000 to 5000, in order to sync them up. Recall that 4000 was still Zen 2, just like 3000, except monolithic APU instead of chiplet-based.zecoeco said:Zen 3 Ryzen was 5000,
6000 was Zen 3+ on N6, and originally meant to be both laptop + desktop. If they're not planning to do a Zen 4+, then there would be no need to skip the 8000.
There's something else going on with the 9000-series branding, because all previous EPYCs were 7000, where the last digit was the generation. Probably, they wanted to differentiate it somehow from Begamo or Siena.zecoeco said:Zen 3 Epyc was 7000. Now Zen 4 Became Ryzen 7000, Zen 4 Epyc 9000.
I wouldn't parse it that finely, but you could be right.Metal Messiah. said:it says ‘next-generation’, which implies this could be the Zen5 architecture, IMO, and not a refresh like Zen 4+. -
kwolf667 The original source is quite clear in this tweet that it's a successor to Ryzen 7000, so the next generation: 1639275144022573061View: https://twitter.com/hms1193/status/1639275144022573061?s=46&t=QZ1nrvyNVybvH-2WBNMFyQReply