Intel’s Comet Lake-S Could Push Even More People Toward AMD

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Matt Safford
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After a rough start with the Mattel Aquarius as a child, Matt built his first PC in the late 1990s and ventured into mild PC modding in the early 2000s. He’s spent the last 15 years covering emerging technology for Smithsonian, Popular Science, and Consumer Reports, while testing components and PCs for Computer Shopper, PCMag and Digital Trends.

  • Aaron44126
    I know it is early, but what do we know about the Comet Lake successor, Rocket Lake? Isn't this also supposedly a 14nm CPU (with 10nm graphics attached)? I wonder how long Intel will drag this on for.

    I'm interested in upgrading soon but I deal with workstation-class laptops (i.e. Dell Precision) where AMD doesn't really have a presence. I sort of hate to buy a new system which is fifth-iteration Skylake or whatever, planning to keep it as my daily driver for several years, only to have Intel turn around and finally release something new one generation later.
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  • Lex-Corp
    Hi there

    I think now Intel's next mainstream processors won't be gaming I am pretty sure it will be all business class profile cpu's with those cores so I think Now AMD will be the next processors for gaming.
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  • thegriff
    Disappointed again!!, they have dragged out the 14++ process for way to long. Over 3 yrs late and still not providing updated arch/process which I had been waiting for. They create a new socket for basically nothing above the previous processors. I guess not enough folks got the boot for this.
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  • salgado18
    They are working* on a brand new architecture since 2017, when Zen 1 caught them off-guard. But it's going to take some time to roll out, so they are just buying some time until then. Maybe by 2021 we see a revolutionary new Intel processor? How will it fare against Zen 3 and 4 by then?

    *my opinion, I have no facts to back that claim. But it does seem logical.
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  • thegriff
    salgado18 said:
    They are working* on a brand new architecture since 2017, when Zen 1 caught them off-guard. But it's going to take some time to roll out, so they are just buying some time until then. Maybe by 2021 we see a revolutionary new Intel processor? How will it fare against Zen 3 and 4 by then?

    *my opinion, I have no facts to back that claim. But it does seem logical.
    Most likely have been "working" on new Arch., since the last Arch. update. Once you finish and Arch. you start looking into a new/updated one. But, it's been much longer than normal, probably due to all the security issues.
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  • kinggremlin
    thegriff said:
    Most likely have been "working" on new Arch., since the last Arch. update. Once you finish and Arch. you start looking into a new/updated one. But, it's been much longer than normal, probably due to all the security issues.
    The architecture is delayed because the 10nm process is was designed for has been delayed. Once it was obvious that 10nm was going to be years late, the architecture got stuck in limbo because it isn't possible to just backport it to 14nm.
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  • mitch074
    Aaron44126 said:
    I'm interested in upgrading soon but I deal with workstation-class laptops (i.e. Dell Precision) where AMD doesn't really have a presence. I sort of hate to buy a new system which is fifth-iteration Skylake or whatever, planning to keep it as my daily driver for several years, only to have Intel turn around and finally release something new one generation later.
    That's what threadripper is about, I think. You can get a nimble 16-core chip today or a quirky 32-core, and then replace it with a Zen 2 when it's out...
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  • kinggremlin
    mitch074 said:
    That's what threadripper is about, I think. You can get a nimble 16-core chip today or a quirky 32-core, and then replace it with a Zen 2 when it's out...

    ?

    The guy says he needs a laptop, and you recommend threadripper?
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  • bit_user
    If Intel is going to add 25% more cores and (presumably) increase clock speeds to some extent while sticking to its well-worn 14nm process node, that reported 125W TDP rating is likely conservative in the extreme. After all, at stock speeds, we saw the “95W” 9900K consume upwards of 145W at stock settings when running Blender.
    Nobody has an excuse to keep writing such ignorance. Read this.

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/13544/why-intel-processors-draw-more-power-than-expected-tdp-turbo
    If the motherboard he used would follow Intel's guidelines for turbo boost parameters, then he wouldn't have registered 145 W in that benchmark. It would've settled around (probably just above) the specified 95 W.

    Granted, TDP ratings are a measurement of required heat dissipation at base frequencies, not power consumption. But if the 8-core 9900K is any indication, its 10-core replacement running on effectively the same architecture and process node is going to need some serious cooling, even at stock settings.
    Again, more ignorance. 10 cores is not inherently hotter than 8. Not if you put the base clocks lower. The higher TDP is just Intel trying to give the CPU more room to stretch its legs. But, they have server CPUs with even more cores and even lower TDP - they just clock them lower.
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  • spikey in tn
    admin said:
    Intel's new Comet Lake-S chips appear to be yet another disappointing update that will push users to AMD's Ryzen 3000-series chips.

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    It sounds like Intel is still beating their dead horse.
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