AMD, Nvidia Conspire to Price Fixing; Sued

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  • DjEaZy
    ... o... common... and intel can't behave too?! Soooooo many antitrust cases all over the world... lets make a big hype about them too... i imagine, that intel behind this to clear the way for larabee... and why not? They can pay... and everything haz its price... so lets fantasize about that... i'm a lucky HD4870 user... and the prise was nice too... soo, lets see... intel destroys AMD with CPU pricing... and intel even don't need to to conspire with others, because intel act/is like a monopolist... intel poses a thread to AMD and nVidia... AMD can sing a blues about it... and nVidia haz sean it... so what can AMD/ATI and nVidia do... ok... they may have some aces... many patents for grapics tehnology... that's why intel have to push a a new standard GPUCPU, that's, by the way is a AMD's Fusion's concepts 1 to 1 copy... or seams so... then nVidia haz the Physix, AMD haz CPU's... intel got just badass CPU's, tons of many, monopolist attitude and a killer behavior... so it's eat or be eaten...
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  • gxsolace
    DjEaZy... o... common... and intel can't behave too?! Soooooo many antitrust cases all over the world... lets make a big hype about them too... i imagine, that intel behind this to clear the way for larabee... and why not? They can pay... and everything haz its price... so lets fantasize about that... i'm a lucky HD4870 user... and the prise was nice too... soo, lets see... intel destroys AMD with CPU pricing... and intel even don't need to to conspire with others, because intel act/is like a monopolist... intel poses a thread to AMD and nVidia... AMD can sing a blues about it... and nVidia haz sean it... so what can AMD/ATI and nVidia do... ok... they may have some aces... many patents for grapics tehnology... that's why intel have to push a a new standard GPUCPU, that's, by the way is a AMD's Fusion's concepts 1 to 1 copy... or seams so... then nVidia haz the Physix, AMD haz CPU's... intel got just badass CPU's, tons of many, monopolist attitude and a killer behavior... so it's eat or be eaten...
    Hey djeazy Spelling or English?

    On the side note, you must be blind. If Nvidia and AMD conspire together to fix prices, then it is acting like a monopolistic single body. Whether it's one company being a monopoly to control prices or a bunch of companies working together to hike or control prices, it's the same result for the consumer. Seriously, get a clue.
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  • Ryun
    Wow, AMD can't seem to ever catch a break. Since ATi was purchased in 2006 I wonder if AMD is even at fault (I don't necessarily mean legally) or if they bought the wrong GPU manufacturer, at the wrong time.
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  • Kari
    woot...
    I love that graph, they are even comparing crossfire setups to single geforce cards in price, how lame is that. :P
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  • Ryun
    Man, wish you could edit comments, as a side note I just wanted that this whole thing makes me think of what kind of GPU manufacturers there would be in the market today had there not been price fixing.
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  • Evolution2001
    I'm no legal analyst nor accounting person. I'm just a computer end user who must not fully understand the problem here. So AMD and nVidia have been working together to release new technology at the same time. Or they have 'conspired' to keep certain pricing points. Ummm, "So?" Doesn't the automotive industry do this worldwide? They produce a product to compete in a certain price range and release them to the public at various auto-shows. nVidia and AMD do the same thing with their products at tech shows.
    With regards to price fixing, how much can one really complain when there is an available product in nearly every price range? From the old MX4000/Rage chips available for $10 to their high-end models in the $350+ range, where is the price fixing? Are they supposed to release newer, faster products for less than their current lineup still in the pipeline? And let's not forget the vendors that use nVidia/AMD reference designs. They need to be able to have some profit margin as well. Are nVidia/AMD going to cut the throats of the vendors that buy their chips/designs?
    And lastly, AMD and nVidia are constantly going back and forth for the crown in respective areas, the same way that AMD and Intel go at it. I hardly call "one-upping the competition" price fixing or collaborating to defraud the public. How long did nVidia hold the performance crown prior to AMD finally catching up...close to a year or more? How often did we hear, "Whenever AMD ("ATI") finally releases their new chip, it had better be a good showing!" We heard it a lot for a long time. That's "collaborating"?
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  • Kari
    ryunMan, wish you could edit comments, as a side note I just wanted that this whole thing makes me think of what kind of GPU manufacturers there would be in the market today had there not been price fixing.all but one would have gone out of business because of price wars... lol
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  • jhansonxi
    I'm tired of the AMD and Nvidia market games. The future is UNICHROME!
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  • the_deek
    I think the terms you're all looking for are collusion and oligopoly. Two competing companies should never be discussing some of the contents of those conversations in private. I think they would be in a lot less hot water had they discussed these ideas as a part of an open forum or committee. Meeting in private and closing out any potential competition is anti-competitive, regardless of whether there is any competition, you must leave the door open under U.S. law.
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  • ravenware
    Hmm, I would be interested to know what product lines they feel were subject to price fixing.
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