Puget Abandons Samsung 990 Pro SSDs Over Reliability Concerns
Puget is switching primarily to Sabrent SSDs in its systems.
Earlier this week, Puget Systems said that it worked with Samsung to identify the cause of failing 980 Pro SSDs in customer computers. After making waves on Chinese web forums and Reddit for months, the problem was blamed on an older firmware (3B2QGXA7) that shipped in early versions of the 980 Pro. A newer firmware, 5B2QGXA7, has seemingly resolved the issue.
That said, according to Puget, the Samsung 990 Pro, the follow-up to the 980 Pro, seems to be having some issues of its own. The company is concerned about early reports of endurance woes with the 990 Pro, despite offering excellent performance and passing its qualification process with flying colors.
As we previously noted, many users reported that their 990 Pro health has declined, on average, one percent per week. One user said that SMART diagnostics pegged the drive at 6,641GB written and an incredible 7 percent decline in health when monitored with a software utility. Another 990 Pro owner reported a 12 percent health decline in a month. Perhaps the most alarming statistic came from Neil Schofield, who posted on Twitter that his drive health eroded 36 percent after 2TB of data was written.
Puget has apparently seen enough, writing, “these drives are popular and commonly used as both the primary OS & application drive as well as high-speed storage for project files, so if the endurance (and thus lifespan) of the drives is indeed dropping at this rate it is very concerning.” As a result, the company will suspend the use of most Samsung SSDs (though it will still carry 500GB versions of the 980 Pro). That said, it's unclear how long this shift will last.
Puget already relies on Sabrent’s 4TB and 8TB SSDs for customer systems and will now add 1TB and 2TB SKUs to replace the 980 Pro and 990 Pro. The move to Sabrent is curious when more established brands exist in this space, like Crucial, Western Digital or Kingston. However, Sabrent SSDs do have a good reputation for high performance, and they consistently appear on our best SSDs lists.
Puget went on to add that it doesn’t often comment when switching brands for components within its computers. After all, most of its customers likely don’t care what kind of memory, power supply, or SSD is installed if performance and reliability metrics are satisfied. However, it says, “because we have been so outspoken about Samsung SSD reliability in the past we felt that it was important to speak up in this particular situation.”
Puget is clearly thinking about its long-term reputation here, adding this bit near the end of its post about the Samsung / Sabrent decision: “Regardless of what the situation ends up being, we fully stand behind our systems and will do the right thing for our customers.”
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CerianK I would like to see the cell rewrites back up to well over 1000, which would help mask subtle firmware issues with wear-leveling and, presumably, help open the thermal window for data retention/integrity during the extremes of operation and transport/storage.Reply -
PlaneInTheSky It's impossible that Samsung didn't know their SSD were faulty.Reply
Same thing is happening with their phones that are now all showing bloated batteries after a few years. Same thing is happening with Samsung QLED monitors that have horrible color fringing but the media kept quiet on it since they were all sponsored by Samsung.
I saw a recent documentary where a former engineer of Samsung said his job at the company was to make sure Samsung appliances like washers and dryers die after X years. He was in charge of obsolescence engineering.
I have more trust in Chinese crap from AliExpress at this point than Samsung products.
Samsung is run by the largest Korean Chaebol, half of that family has either been in jail, or had a run-in with the law. They are corrupt to the core. -
I wouldn't be surprised if the quietly switched to QLC.Reply
I have an old Intel 40GB SSD (INTEL SSDSA2BT040G3) used in corporate environment and it has more life in it than those drives. -
RichardtST Yeah. Sadly, Samsung has taken a nose-dive in the last few years and decided to cash-in on the great reputation that they had taken so long to build. Learned that the hard way when I found my S22 Ultra overheats almost instantly playing almost anything. What good is a 120Hz screen if it only lasts 5 minutes and then throttles itself? Goodbye Samsung. Totally agree on the Sabrent drives. Have been having excellent results there. (And now hoping not to jinx myself!)Reply -
USAFRet
What happened with the phones is totally different.PlaneInTheSky said:It's impossible that Samsung didn't know their SSD were faulty. Same thing is happening with their phones that are now all showing bloated batteries after a few years.
It is absolutely not impossible that some fault emerged that was no foreseen.
This can, and does, happen with any tech. -
PlaneInTheSky It is absolutely not impossible that some fault emerged that was no foreseen.
This can, and does, happen with any tech.
Please, Samsung knew.
Samsung 980 SSD are from 2 years ago, and now that they got caught they are suddenly "investigating", caught like a deer in the headlights. Of course they knew these drives were dying.
Hiding problems, buying out reviewers, and then pretending to be a chocked Pickachu when someone discovers the flaws, is typical Samsung. -
USAFRet
Unless you can dig up some SooperSekrit internal files from Samsung....speculation.PlaneInTheSky said:Please, Samsung knew.
Samsung 980 SSD are from 2 years ago, and now that they got caught they are suddenly "investigating", caught like a deer in the headlights. Of course they knew these drives were dying.
Hiding problems, buying out reviewers, and then pretending to be a chocked Pickachu when someone discovers the flaws, is typical Samsung.
It may well be that they 'knew'.
It may also be entirely possible that they did not know.
But it is pretty silly to think that they would have known, and deliberately risked the fallout once it did become known. -
g-unit1111 This sucks, I've been using primarily Samsung SSDs forever. My primary PC now has like 3 of them including a 980 Pro. Looks like I'll be switching to WD or Seagate from now on.Reply -
Rogue Leader PlaneInTheSky said:Please, Samsung knew.
Samsung 980 SSD are from 2 years ago, and now that they got caught they are suddenly "investigating", caught like a deer in the headlights. Of course they knew these drives were dying.
Hiding problems, buying out reviewers, and then pretending to be a chocked Pickachu when someone discovers the flaws, is typical Samsung.
Interesting accusations. Despite the current world climate not everything is a conspiracy. Occams razor, the simplest answer statistically is the right one.
Samsung is known as the default best in the business when it comes to SSDs, they like that reputation. So if they were to discover a fault do they push it under the rug and hope its not too bad, or do they take the hit and fix it, which will just foster that reputation. Especially after seeing the fallout Seagate had over 1 line of faulty drives that got turned into WAY more than it ever was.
If they knew about it they would have taken the hit and fixed it immediately, not released a subsequent version of the same drive with the flaw. This is a pretty obvious answer, especially if you've worked in Corporate America these days. The days of getting away with ignoring criticial issues are long gone.
USAFRet said:Unless you can dig up some SooperSekrit internal files from Samsung....speculation.
It may well be that they 'knew'.
It may also be entirely possible that they did not know.
But it is pretty silly to think that they would have known, and deliberately risked the fallout once it did become known.
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USAFRet
I have a wide variety of Samsungs, from 250GB 840 EVOs to a 980 Pro.g-unit1111 said:This sucks, I've been using primarily Samsung SSDs forever. My primary PC now has like 3 of them including a 980 Pro. Looks like I'll be switching to WD or Seagate from now on.
Zero issues with any of them.