Seagate Launches 2nd Gen Dual-Actuator HDDs: 18TB at 554 MBps

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  • BX4096
    How's Seagate's failure rates nowadays? I stopped buying from them entirely years ago, after I noticed that something like 80% of all my failed drives were by Seagate.
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  • WrongRookie
    BX4096 said:
    How's Seagate's failure rates nowadays? I stopped buying from them entirely years ago, after I noticed that something like 80% of all my failed drives were by Seagate.

    Still frequent I'm afraid..

    https://blocksandfiles.com/2021/11/02/backblaze-find-seagate-disk-drives-fail-most-often/
    Don't know about this year though.

    Just imagine if they tried selling this but as firecuda/barracuda. Could give less reasons to go for sata SSDs of 2 or 4 tb..
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  • NeatOman
    WrongRookie said:
    Still frequent I'm afraid..

    https://blocksandfiles.com/2021/11/02/backblaze-find-seagate-disk-drives-fail-most-often/
    Don't know about this year though.

    Just imagine if they tried selling this but as firecuda/barracuda. Could give less reasons to go for sata SSDs of 2 or 4 tb..

    That's still Massively better than it was before when they had to draw there warranties back to just a year o_O this was around the 2010's and WD went though a similar quality phase, but not nearly as bad imo. But going from over 10% on AVERAGE to about 2% is "good". But you're right, in comparison it's still 2x worse than the field. I still use the old Toshiba drives that where rebranded HSGT drives, and had effectively the same HSGT drives before that :whistle: and WD black back in the late 00's and good old Seagates when they where made as well as the best of them in the early mid 00's.
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  • Kamen Rider Blade
    Give it to me, I want the Dual Actuator tech =D.
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  • bit_user
    NeatOman said:
    WD went though a similar quality phase, but not nearly as bad imo.
    WD made the smart move of buying HGST. It took a really long time to get them merged, but I think all of their HDDs are now HGST-designed.
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  • bit_user
    The_Git said:
    Why! it doubles the chance of failure.
    More than that, I expect.

    I wonder how much they have to account for one actuator actually moving the drive. In the worst case, they might not be able to read or write while the other actuator is seeking.

    The_Git said:
    The dual actuator just means that you have a central Disk with 2 reading arms either side of it.
    That doesn't sound like what the article is saying.

    The_Git said:
    It certainly won't double reading time
    The article claims there are indeed performance benefits. Otherwise, what's the point?

    Performance is really becoming an issue, as HDD capacities continue to scale. Backups and RAID rebuilds are now taking multiple days.
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  • Umfriend
    The_Git said:
    Why! it doubles the chance of failure. The dual actuator just means that you have a central Disk with 2 reading arms either side of it. It certainly won't double reading time, it adds complexity to the controller circuit, needs more Cache and has double the chance of failing due to power loss when the drive is reading or writing, or when the case receives shock whist in use.
    Otherwise it is a decent Idea, like a multicore CPU.
    Actually, no. There is a single spindle but the actuators are located on top of each other. The advantage is that they can operate independent of each other, each on half of the platters. It's more like having 2 HDD inside one package or Raid-0 like.
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  • Kamen Rider Blade
    The_Git said:
    Why! it doubles the chance of failure. The dual actuator just means that you have a central Disk with 2 reading arms either side of it. It certainly won't double reading time, it adds complexity to the controller circuit, needs more Cache and has double the chance of failing due to power loss when the drive is reading or writing, or when the case receives shock whist in use.
    Otherwise it is a decent Idea, like a multicore CPU.
    The whole point is Seagate needs to build in a internal RAID 0 to improve performance without me having to do anything.

    That's the whole point of Multi-Actuator
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  • bit_user
    Kamen Rider Blade said:
    The whole point is Seagate needs to build in a internal RAID 0 to improve performance without me having to do anything.

    That's the whole point of Multi-Actuator
    Yes, they need to find a way to improve HDD throughput within the confines of a standard 3.5" enclosure. The right way to think about this is improving HDD performance density.
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  • Kamen Rider Blade
    bit_user said:
    Yes, they need to find a way to improve HDD throughput within the confines of a standard 3.5" enclosure. The right way to think about this is improving HDD performance density.
    That happens naturally anyways, the biggest improvement in HDD is "Multi-Actuator".

    The part they haven't leveraged is RAID 0 internally to maximize linear sustained throughput.

    I'm not expecting Random Performance to increase, but linear throughput should increase dramatically.

    Eventually, if you keep going down the "Multi-Acutator" tech tree, you could get to the point where every arm is individually moving and you are reading & writing from as many arms as possible to fulfill increased stacked throughput via internal RAID.
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