AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX Review: 24 Cores on a Budget

Final Analysis

Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX marches onto the HEDT scene with 24 cores and 48 threads. That's more cores than any competing Intel processor. But not all cores are created equal. Intel still gets more work done per clock cycle with its ninth-gen Core CPUs than AMD does with second-gen Ryzen. What's more, the 2970WX exhibits the same idiosyncrasies as the flagship Ryzen Threadripper 2900WX. It's an impressive performer in heavily-threaded workloads that aren't memory-bound, but it struggles in some applications that don't scale well based on core count (particularly if they're sensitive to available memory bandwidth).

More mainstream Ryzen and Core CPUs offer better value to gamers. Even the X-series Threadripper processors are smarter purchases than the halo WX models if you're an enthusiast. AMD's less expensive Threadrippers promise a better experience in the lightly-threaded apps that Intel continues to dominate.

But maybe Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX serves as a less expensive entry point for professionals able to exploit its copious core count in workstation-class software. The $1800 Threadripper 2990WX doesn’t always scale well, particularly in AVX-heavy tasks like HandBrake. If you're going to have to make compromises like that, you might as well save some money on the $1300 2970WX and get similar performance in the apps able to utilize its quad-die design effectively. 

The X399 platform is expensive, and while drop-in compatibility with existing motherboards is a big advantage for AMD, you need a board with robust power circuitry. You also want a power supply with two EPS connectors. Cooling is a little easier on AMD's HEDT CPUs than Intel's competing Skylake-X chips, largely due to the Indium solder that AMD uses between its dies and heat spreader. But a beefy water cooler is still almost mandatory if you plan on overclocking.

AMD’s Dynamic Local Mode feature attempts to circumvent the performance issues endemic to its quad-die topology. Unfortunately, the mode is not as effective as we hoped it'd be. Some games do register big benefits. However, they still mostly trail the performance you get by flipping the CPU into Game mode via Ryzen Master, disabling 75% of the 2970WX's cores. AMD claims Dynamic Local Mode's background service will improve over time as the company characterizes more applications. Still, we see this as a bandage for the inconvenience of having to change modes and reboot your PC.

The competition isn't sitting still. Intel continues to get more competitive as it tries winning back the hearts and minds of enthusiasts. Its Basin Falls/Skylake-X Refresh processors should arrive next month. They'll still top out at 18 cores and 36 threads, and undoubtedly bear the company's notoriously high prices. But they are also rumored to employ Indium solder for improved thermal dissipation. That could make the new CPUs more attractive to tuners. It'd also be nice to see higher multi-core Turbo Boost bins that bolster performance in lightly-threaded workloads. Intel is also eschewing the practice of disabling PCIe lanes on less expensive HEDT processors, which is obviously a response to AMD’s practice of exposing all 60 PCIe lanes on every Threadripper model.

For now, AMD's Ryzen Threadripper 2950X, and as an extension the 2920X, offer the best value for high-end desktop PCs. Much like the Threadripper 2990WX, the 2970WX we tested today is a niche product for professionals seeking very specific capabilities. The competitive landscape is changing though, so we'd recommend waiting this one out.

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  • Peter Martin
    Threadripper and Cake or Death!

    I'll have the Threadripper please.
    Very well! Give him Threadripper!

    This would be ideal for me, but it is pricey for now.
  • richardvday
    New = Pricey
    Always going to be that way
  • Peter Martin
    yeah. i can wait... lol, still, I need one.
  • 1_rick
    Basin Falls may be soldered, but considering that the solder in the 9000-series doesn't seem to do as much as people had hoped, we should be prepared for there not to be a lot of OC headroom.
  • kinggremlin
    If you can't afford it, you don't need it. Anyone who can make actual use of this CPU is using it in a business which is generating the money necessary to pay for it.
  • g-unit1111
    264688 said:
    If you can't afford it, you don't need it. Anyone who can make actual use of this CPU is using it in a business which is generating the money necessary to pay for it.


    Exactly, if I were in a business to generate content I would take the 24 core TR4 CPU over the 18 core Intel equivalent for less money any day of the week. Not everything is made to play games on it.
  • Peter Martin
    who are you to determine my needs?
  • Dorian Kunch
    Why he is the internet IT god, bow to it it it it one one one one
    Give it the Threadripper.
    Give it!
  • mellis
    Looks like the I9-9900K is the best bang for the buck.
  • Peter Martin
    I would be able to make some money with that for sure. fine, now where is that business plan?
  • Wes006
    The article states "AMD's XFR (eXtreme Frequency Range)" but it should be "AMD's XFR (Extended Frequency Range)".

    Source: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/sense-mi
  • PaulAlcorn
    1708139 said:
    The article states "AMD's XFR (eXtreme Frequency Range)" but it should be "AMD's XFR (Extended Frequency Range)". Source: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/sense-mi


    Good eye, fixed!
  • Kaz_2_
    get out intel they using this to win share and profit from gamer. Threadripper will be best of both world. what else intel can pull ? no reason to let intel win all the games because they doesnt help competition in the further run. If they win you wont find any cheap cpu in the next 5 years
  • mustafa.technet
    something, intel has solved a problem in CPU design amd did not, it is getting it cool enough for long time high frequency. It is why it could run seamlessly for hours... AMD has problem in high frequencies. AMD uses twice amount of resources in smaller cores, Intel is very monolithic package, so, runs the same performance in different workloads..
    Intel has bigger cores, but less sillicon, because it is one thread execution in parallel, so, in very high # of threads (benchmarks only), amd is winner...

    Thanks!
  • mustafa.technet
    Intel i9 9900k is impressive reminds me of i7 7700k... in real workloads, this beast beats no matter who is against it......
  • mitch074
    Some benchmarks show that threadripper 2970/2990 work much better under Linux. At one time this website also ran these tests, but not anymore.
  • Lasselundberg
    why or why 1080P gaming results...people buying threadrippers are not gonna sit behind a 1080P monitor....
  • bobba84
    Threadripper is an incorrect name for it, it's crap performance per thread.
  • antonvantov
    Really Winer in theese review is - Rizen 7 2700X.
  • muffindell66
    Threadripper isn't designed for gaming, so why test it for gaming?
  • carl_heinz
    Why everyone is praising the new threadripper with its lousy performance?!!! I need to check the graphs again and read the conclusion to see what I really missed!!!
  • Olle P
    Some observations:
    * In the last set of graphs the "Compression" and "Decompression" graphs are mixed up and should be the other way around. (Ryzen is much better at decompression than it is at compression.)
    * It's a pity that the Core i9-7920X isn't in there. That's the only relevant Intel offering at this price point.
    * While the 2970WX can draw >400W when overclocked, it's marginally less power hungry than i9-7900X at stock settings.

    517105 said:
    Looks like the I9-9900K is the best bang for the buck.
    Not for any of the work the TR is intended for.
  • agello24
    in a multitasking multicore world, the last think i would expect a reviewer to put in a review is anything dealing with "single core" performance.
  • TerryLaze
    678997 said:
    in a multitasking multicore world, the last think i would expect a reviewer to put in a review is anything dealing with "single core" performance.


    Multitasking means you are running multiple tasks,some of those might be single core tasks.