AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX Review: 24 Cores on a Budget

VRMark, 3DMark, AotS: Escalation and Dawn of War III

Test Notes

Unlike AMD's previous-gen Threadripper models, the WX-series CPUs include a Game Mode preset in the Ryzen Master software that disables three of four dies. Company representatives tell us this facilitates optimal performance in games. But AMD also provides toggles that allow experimentation with two- and four-die configurations. For this review's gaming benchmarks, we tested the Threadripper processors with Game Mode enabled. Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX consequently becomes a 6C/12T CPU for those tests.

Dynamic Local Mode is a new feature that debuts with the 2970WX, and it only applies to the WX-series models. We include a second bar chart for each game to quantify performance with this feature enabled or disabled at stock settings (labeled Creator/DM).

Gaming performance is measured at 1920x1080, minimizing graphics bottlenecks. Of course, as you step up to 2560x1440 or 3840x2160, the differences between processors shrink.

We have application test results with an overclocked Ryzen Threadripper 2920X, but weren't able to run that chip in its tuned state through our game benchmarks before it stopped working. Once we're able to get it back up and running, we'll update the gaming charts.

VRMark, 3DMark

We aren't big fans of using synthetic benchmarks to measure performance, but 3DMark's DX11 and DX12 CPU tests provide useful insight into the amount of horsepower available to game engines.

Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX's Game Mode drops the 24-core chip's count down to six active cores, but also prevents bandwidth-starved execution resources from handicapping performance during the DX11 and DX12 tests. Nevertheless, the 2970WX drops to the bottom of our chart. A dual-die 2920X easily beats the 2970WX, so it's clear that the quad-die CPU's topography is the issue.

UL's VRMark test lets you gauge your system's suitability for use with the HTC Vive or Oculus Rift, even if you don't currently own an HMD. UL defines a passing score as anything above 109 FPS. Precision Boost Overdrive yields a 13.6 FPS gain for the Threadripper 2970WX.

Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation

Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation is a computationally intense title that normally scales well with thread count.

Again, Ryzen Threadripper 2920X facilitates better performance than the 2970WX at stock settings. If there's a silver lining here, it's that PBO pushes today's subject beyond a stock 2990WX.

The second slide shows us that Dynamic Local Mode, which we used in tandem with Creator mode, imposes a slightly lower frame rate. Dynamic Local Mode's background process avoids shuffling threads that fully utilize the CPU's resources. Ashes of the Singularity does this, so the result isn't entirely surprising.

It is clear, however, that the 2970WX doesn’t scale linearly as cores and threads are added in Creator mode. You'll get similar (or better) performance in Game mode with just six cores active.

Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War III

Threadripper processors perform well in this title. The 2970WX lands close to the top with PBO enabled, though the much cheaper Ryzen 7 2700 isn’t far behind.

The 2970WX in Game mode is faster than the same chip in Creator mode, even after we enable AMD's new Dynamic Local Mode. The company touted that switch's ability to improve performance "up to 49%,” but remember that those gains happen in Creator mode. You probably don't want to game in Creator mode.

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  • Peter Martin
    Threadripper and Cake or Death!

    I'll have the Threadripper please.
    Very well! Give him Threadripper!

    This would be ideal for me, but it is pricey for now.
  • richardvday
    New = Pricey
    Always going to be that way
  • Peter Martin
    yeah. i can wait... lol, still, I need one.
  • 1_rick
    Basin Falls may be soldered, but considering that the solder in the 9000-series doesn't seem to do as much as people had hoped, we should be prepared for there not to be a lot of OC headroom.
  • kinggremlin
    If you can't afford it, you don't need it. Anyone who can make actual use of this CPU is using it in a business which is generating the money necessary to pay for it.
  • g-unit1111
    264688 said:
    If you can't afford it, you don't need it. Anyone who can make actual use of this CPU is using it in a business which is generating the money necessary to pay for it.


    Exactly, if I were in a business to generate content I would take the 24 core TR4 CPU over the 18 core Intel equivalent for less money any day of the week. Not everything is made to play games on it.
  • Peter Martin
    who are you to determine my needs?
  • Dorian Kunch
    Why he is the internet IT god, bow to it it it it one one one one
    Give it the Threadripper.
    Give it!
  • mellis
    Looks like the I9-9900K is the best bang for the buck.
  • Peter Martin
    I would be able to make some money with that for sure. fine, now where is that business plan?
  • Wes006
    The article states "AMD's XFR (eXtreme Frequency Range)" but it should be "AMD's XFR (Extended Frequency Range)".

    Source: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/sense-mi
  • PaulAlcorn
    1708139 said:
    The article states "AMD's XFR (eXtreme Frequency Range)" but it should be "AMD's XFR (Extended Frequency Range)". Source: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/sense-mi


    Good eye, fixed!
  • Kaz_2_
    get out intel they using this to win share and profit from gamer. Threadripper will be best of both world. what else intel can pull ? no reason to let intel win all the games because they doesnt help competition in the further run. If they win you wont find any cheap cpu in the next 5 years
  • mustafa.technet
    something, intel has solved a problem in CPU design amd did not, it is getting it cool enough for long time high frequency. It is why it could run seamlessly for hours... AMD has problem in high frequencies. AMD uses twice amount of resources in smaller cores, Intel is very monolithic package, so, runs the same performance in different workloads..
    Intel has bigger cores, but less sillicon, because it is one thread execution in parallel, so, in very high # of threads (benchmarks only), amd is winner...

    Thanks!
  • mustafa.technet
    Intel i9 9900k is impressive reminds me of i7 7700k... in real workloads, this beast beats no matter who is against it......
  • mitch074
    Some benchmarks show that threadripper 2970/2990 work much better under Linux. At one time this website also ran these tests, but not anymore.
  • Lasselundberg
    why or why 1080P gaming results...people buying threadrippers are not gonna sit behind a 1080P monitor....
  • bobba84
    Threadripper is an incorrect name for it, it's crap performance per thread.
  • antonvantov
    Really Winer in theese review is - Rizen 7 2700X.
  • muffindell66
    Threadripper isn't designed for gaming, so why test it for gaming?
  • carl_heinz
    Why everyone is praising the new threadripper with its lousy performance?!!! I need to check the graphs again and read the conclusion to see what I really missed!!!
  • Olle P
    Some observations:
    * In the last set of graphs the "Compression" and "Decompression" graphs are mixed up and should be the other way around. (Ryzen is much better at decompression than it is at compression.)
    * It's a pity that the Core i9-7920X isn't in there. That's the only relevant Intel offering at this price point.
    * While the 2970WX can draw >400W when overclocked, it's marginally less power hungry than i9-7900X at stock settings.

    517105 said:
    Looks like the I9-9900K is the best bang for the buck.
    Not for any of the work the TR is intended for.
  • agello24
    in a multitasking multicore world, the last think i would expect a reviewer to put in a review is anything dealing with "single core" performance.
  • TerryLaze
    678997 said:
    in a multitasking multicore world, the last think i would expect a reviewer to put in a review is anything dealing with "single core" performance.


    Multitasking means you are running multiple tasks,some of those might be single core tasks.