The Apple Mac Cost Misconception
Windows is Getting Better Too
I’ve only mentioned several of the features that make OS X a joy to use. I’ve used Vista as well on a laptop and it’s quite good. There’s a lot of prejudice against OS X in that it’s only a "pretty" operating system, but a good hard look under the hood reveals significantly more.
One of the most important things going for OS X is its usability. Apple does a great job of tying everything together. From one device to another, to online services, Apple builds its products to work with each other from the start. However, don’t be confused. Microsoft would have a far easier time to do this as well if its market share was lower and it only had to support a small user base. Because of the vast variety of Windows users out there, credit must be given to Microsoft for epic attempts at supporting the majority crowd.
But Apple does a great job at making things very easy for users. The essence of what Apple is doing by having a virtually closed platform, is to have control. Of course, there are two sides of a coin to everything, and the bad side of this is that hardware selection is severely limited. But the bright side is that most things are very simplistic and there’s a certain level of quality control. People who say they’ve jumped on a Mac and found it difficult to troubleshoot just haven’t spent the same amount of time on one as they have on a Windows PC. Experience lends itself to computers, as well as everything else in life — you get better at it with time.
And getting better is exactly what Microsoft is doing. Vista has some great features going for it. Microsoft is getting significantly better at making a user interface that’s fun and easy to use, as well as bringing in more powerful features. Given that some of the best features that was slated for Vista’s release was left out, I can only surmise that the next version of Windows will be superb.
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The OS is proprietary since the EULA states you cannot use it on non-Apple hardware. Not because it doesn't have market share. Because it does.Reply
My gripe with apple's pricing is that there are no real budget oriented options. The cheapest macbook is 1000$+. The cheapest laptop I can find with Vista is 600 or less at Costco/Sams Club.
Everyone says that OS X is faster and yada yada yada. I know people are going to shoot me for this, but I find all of the fancy desktop effects to be VERY laggy except on laptops with a dedicated video card. The Laptops especially slow to a crawl unless they have >2gb of ram. Like Vista. I work on these every day and if I ever bought one, it'd be for the looks- the OS is nothing special IMO. I'd install Vista on it. -
rodney_ws Cherry picking over-priced PCs does little to prove your point. I realize that when you're going the Apple route you don't have many options, but those of us on the PC side have TONS of options... and even the most basic among us would be able to purchase higher performing, lower cost PCs than the ones you selected to go up against the Apples.Reply
For $1549 I purchase an HP laptop w/ 4 GB of RAM, 20.1 inch screen, Blu-Ray, 5 speakers, and an Nvidia 8800 GTS. My system absolutely crushes that $2000 MacBook Pro in every category... and still cost $450 less.
Don't get me wrong... I "get" Apple. They look awesome, are well built, have an awesome retail presence, and they are right for some people... just not for me. -
compy386 If you're stupid enough to pay retail for a Dell, then Apple just might be the computer for you.Reply -
ouch1 Funny how you are comparing base model MAC's to bleeding edge PC's. That my dear journalist is not comparing apples to apples. It is comparing apples to apple pie. Big difference. That just goes to prove for that same cost as a very high end PC you can get a base model MAC with a very proprietary OS (i.e. can't install it on anything but a mac with invoking the Jobs cops, check the EULA). Please if you make the mistake of buy an Airbook have fun changing the battery (you can't) or watching a DVD while on the road (again you can't no built in DVD drive).Reply -
hixbot Wow, you took a PC desktop with identical hardware and proved that it would cost the same as the baseline Mac Pro.Reply
What's the point? You can build a PC with hardware that isn't identical but PERFORMS better for CHEAPER. Picking the same overpriced PC components doesnt prove anything. -
customisbetter i read the first page and stopped. Apples are designed to look good and be reliable. I get that and many other people do as well. They really aren't designed to be performers for cheap. The PC will ALWAYS win in the price category (and usually performance as well) because you pay for the reliability and style of Apple. Please stop comparing the two.Reply
Just to humour you though. The ENVY has a Carbon Fiber Chassis. BAM! There's 300 right there.
BTW i am both a PC and Mac Owner. -
angry_ducky I don't think that comparing the MacBook Pro and the XPS M1730 is a good comparison; the XPS is a desktop-replacement gaming machine, and is therefore bigger and heavier than the Mac. Also, the 8700M GT will outperform the 8600GT, and I am unable to find where it specifies that the 8700 has shared graphics memory.Reply
Dell sells the XPS M1530 which is a 15.4 inch laptop designed more for multimedia than for gaming (similar to the Mac). The M1530 starts at $1000, and with identical specs to the MacBook Pro (and Vista Ultimate), the price is $1650. -
jwl3 The main point is that with PC's you have hundreds of different vendors I can buy a computer from. Due to competition the price is always lower. The author is being disingenuous by picking for comparison laptops at non-discounted prices. Dell ALWAYS has deals with $400-$500 off. Apple NEVER discounts their products.Reply
I bought an Acer laptop from Newegg.com 2 weeks ago for $399. It came with a Dual core pentium, 120GB HD, and 1GB ram. What can you get for $399 at the Apple store - a tricked out ipod?
Oh and another thing - if you play games at all, you can forget the Apple. Games just aren't made for it and the ones that are come out 1 year after the PC release. -
jwl3 Additional thought:Reply
The author's main point is that Macs are similarly priced to PC's. Then halfway through the article, he states that MAC prices are at a premium because it's from a top-shelf manufacturer and it is sold to cater to a "lifestyle. "
Which one is it you duplicitous fool? Are you actually acknowledging that Macs are severely overpriced vs. PC's? -
wow they messed up big time with this article. comparing thickness and weight of a 17" laptop vs a 15" macbook pro. sounds fair to me. also lets go ahead and say that the 8600m GT is faster than the 8700m GT. who wrote this, honestly? anyone who knows even a small amount about graphics cards should know that an 8700m GT does not use shared graphics memory. The 200GB drive in the dell is also most likely a 7200rpm vs the 5400rpm in the macbook pro. 802.11n wifi is a $20 upgrade on the dell, had to not include that to make the mac look better. Also that dell is designed for SLI graphics cards upto two 8800m GTX with 1GB of memory, lets see the 6lb macbook pro do that. Different machines designed for different purposes. Pick a better comparison tom, seriously!Reply