11-Drive DRAMless SSD Round Up

Phison S11 3D Reference Designs


Phison S11 controllers are already available at retail, and the Patriot Spark further down this page touts the same controller.

The first Phison S11 model uses Micron's L06B 256Gbit MLC NAND. This is the first time we've tested any product with Intel/Micron's (IMFT) new 3D MLC. At this time, the Intel DC P3520 enterprise NVMe SSD is the only retail product armed with IMFT 3D MLC.

The second reference design uses Toshiba 48-layer BiCS 2, which is similar to the NAND shipping in the new iPhone products released just a few months ago. There is not an SSD currently shipping with this flash in retail channels. Like the Micron 3D MLC, this is the first time we've tested Toshiba's 3D BiCS NAND.

Technical Specifications


Phison S11 Micron 3D MLC Reference DesignPhison S11 Toshiba 3D TLC Reference Design
Capacity (Raw / User)240GB / 256GB240GB / 256GB
Form Factor2.5"2.5"
Interface / ProtocolSATA 6Gbps / AHCISATA 6Gbps / AHCI
NANDMicron 3D 256Gb MLCToshiba BiCS2 TLC
ControllerPhison S11Phison S11

Unlike the rest of the SSDs in this roundup, these two are not currently shipping with this configuration. We may see retail products appear in January, or later in 2017.

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  • ponchato
    Look you guys need to get rid of this autoplaying, auto-resizing video or I'm done here. A tech website should not be this unusable. Skipping half a page down when I scroll slightly too far is incredibly annoying and you KNOW it irritates people and kills site usability. If it's not fixed or removed by this time next week (that's February 18th, 2017) I'm never coming to Tom's again.
  • MCMunroe
    I agree with ponchato. Every page has this big video that plays the same damn thing that is usually the biggest image on the screen. For months it was a smaller video of Doom that played over and over, and now is a big video of cherry keys. WTF.
    Can't you just tuck in normal ads?
  • hixbot
    Agreed. And these click bait "from the web" ads are fake news scams at best and misogynistic and offensive at worst.
  • JimmiG
    I have a WD Green 240 GB SSD (DRAM less Marvell 88SS1074 and TLC) as a Steam games drive. It works fine for that purpose, since it's mostly sequential/random reads and very few writes (only when a game updates). No reason to not get one for that purpose, even as an "enthusiast". However, I wouldn't use them as system drives. I'm using a Samsung 850 Evo for that.
  • Mindrax
    Use uBlock or Adblock to prevent that.
    :)
    I can't believe you don't already.
    Internet is a horrible place without blockers.
  • bit_user
    Gosh, I'm getting so paranoid about these ads that I wasn't even sure if the

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    banner was legit. Seems to be.
  • bit_user
    Thanks for the tests, Chris (and the correction, Jon).

    Some of these SSD definitely need to come with a warning label!
  • jakjawagon
    You guys need to fix your UK website. Half the graphs are missing. Posting this here as well because it's more likely to be seen.
  • bit_user
    404539 said:
    You guys need to fix your UK website. Half the graphs are missing. Posting this here as well because it's more likely to be seen.
    On some articles, with pages that have lots of graphs, occasionally not all of them load for me. I'd say try restarting your web browser or use a different one & see if that makes a difference.
  • derekullo
    Firefox + Noscript + Adblock + Hosts file from www.winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm

    Stop complaining and just block them.

    I literally see 0 ads on Toms when I use the above with Firefox.

    The host file i would say is the most important.

    Even when I open Chrome 90% of the ads are gone, including the super annoying Doom video some guy was posting about yesterday. I literally had to go to another computer that didn't have the custom host file to see it. lol

    I don't have adblock nor noscript with chrome so the hosts file alone is blocking those ads.
  • bit_user
    212804 said:
    I literally see 0 ads on Toms when I use the above with Firefox.
    0 ads = 0 toms

    Some people's excessive blocking is probably a factor in the rest of us being beset with more obnoxious and intrusive ads. Yes, there has to be some eventual resolution to the online advertising arms race, but we're not going to solve that here.

    If you like this site, don't block everything and consider clicking on a few ads that genuinely interest you.
  • Bruce427
    I use Adblock. No problems.

    Chris,

    Say, when will be see a review on the Samsung 500GB EVO 960?
  • Mpablo87
    Is it useful!?())

    What about the power?? //
  • Sakkura
    WOW, 496 random write IOPS at QD1 for the 240GB Sandisk SSD Plus? This is why I've been warning people about this model. That's disgustingly terrible performance for a so-called SSD. That should almost be called a SATA-attached flash drive, it doesn't meet the performance I would expect from even a cheap SSD.

    And I spotted a couple issues with the article: Why is there no random write data for the 500GB class, aside from steady state? And why is the page for the Sandisk SSD Plus called Sandisk Ultra Plus? The Ultra Plus is a different model. Older, as far as I know, but you can never be sure when they can change the components under the hood whenever they like.
  • jakjawagon
    328798 said:
    On some articles, with pages that have lots of graphs, occasionally not all of them load for me. I'd say try restarting your web browser or use a different one & see if that makes a difference.


    Using Firefox and Chrome, with and without AdBlock, same results. The graphs aren't just not loading, they're completely missing.
  • DotNetMaster777
    May be given ssd disks are the cheapest on the market !!
  • derekullo
    328798 said:
    212804 said:
    I literally see 0 ads on Toms when I use the above with Firefox.
    0 ads = 0 toms Some people's excessive blocking is probably a factor in the rest of us being beset with more obnoxious and intrusive ads. Yes, there has to be some eventual resolution to the online advertising arms race, but we're not going to solve that here. If you like this site, don't block everything and consider clicking on a few ads that genuinely interest you.


    If I wanted to buy something, I would just go to newegg or amazon.

    I'm not clicking your ad no matter how many Barqs advertisements with Angelina you show.

    Barqs does genuinely interest me but I tend to get most of soft drink news from the local supermarket.

    To be fair, I'm sure Google has enough information about me to know my habits by now to know that any ads I click would just be an attempt to generate money for a website. They would probably invalidate my clicks. lol

    It almost sounds like an anime quote but "every fiber of my being is saying DON'T CLICK THE AD LEADING TO ad.doubleclick.net"

    God knows what kind of java-scripts and obnoxious doom videos they have running trying to infect me with hundreds of trojans.
  • bit_user
    212804 said:
    ...
    Okay, I'm sorry I said anything about clicking. But it's like you don't understand how this site is financed. Plus, the more people that block, the more obnoxious the ads get for everyone else.
  • daglesj
    The whole thing of using ads on a site is dead anyway. It's mostly BS.
  • HERETIC-1
    Hi Chris-Good honest review again-as usual.
    Very disappointed with Bics,had been waiting and hoping!!!!!!!!!!
    Microns 3D MLC not looking too flash either(couldn't resist the pun there)
    Seems Sammy's basic 750 EVO beats them all,and that's planer TLC.

    Guess the multitude of low end drives Sandisk had will morph into the WD Green.

    When the OCZ-TL100 first came out-synthetic benchmarks were promising-then
    it failed dismally in most of the practical tests.
    The conclusion I draw from that is-The controller knows when benchmarks are being run.
    NOTE TO MANUFACTURERS-Yes we want cheaper drive's-but this race to the bottom
    needs to stop......................................................................................
  • bit_user
    142182 said:
    The whole thing of using ads on a site is dead anyway.
    ...getting back to reality: they still have ads on the site, now with more aggressive self-playing videos. Until they have another way of paying for the content (or the site gets shut down), ads are not dead.

    They did have a few sponsored articles, but the vast majority of their articles aren't. I, for one, would not like to see their news & reviews remain objective.

    142182 said:
    It's mostly BS.
    Exactly what do you mean by that?
  • derekullo
    328798 said:
    142182 said:
    The whole thing of using ads on a site is dead anyway.
    ...getting back to reality: they still have ads on the site, now with more aggressive self-playing videos. Until they have another way of paying for the content (or the site gets shut down), ads are not dead. They did have a few sponsored articles, but the vast majority of their articles aren't. I, for one, would not like to see their news & reviews remain objective.
    142182 said:
    It's mostly BS.
    Exactly what do you mean by that?


    I don't mind a few ads on screen.

    It's when 1/4 of my screen on the right and 1/4 of my screen on the left is taken up by giant ads coupled with auto playing videos in the middle that I get rid of them all.

    In any case, this isn't the place for this discussion.
  • CTPAHHIK
    Your technical specifications window lists Z410 as MLC drive.
  • JonDol
    328798 said:
    Thanks for the tests, Paul. Some of these SSD definitely need to come with a warning label!


    This was Chris not Paul :p