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First Intel Haswell-E Engineering Sample CPU Spotted

By - Source: VR-Zone | B 33 comments

The rumor mill has booted!

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While the mainstream Haswell processors from Intel have been on the market for a while already, the HEDT (High-End DeskTop) Haswell-E processors still have to make their debut. While this is not a launch, the folks over at VR-Zone did manage to get a peek at an engineering sample of one of the chips.

For starters, it looks like the chip will feature a total of eight processing cores, each clocked at 3.0 GHz. They will also sit in the upcoming X99 Express chipset from Intel, which should offer native support for USB 3.0 along with a default total of ten SATA3 (6 Gb/s) ports. Additionally, the report indicates that it will support DDR4 memory, and that the CPU will be able to drive 40 individual PCIe 3.0 lanes. There was no word on SATA-Express support.

According to the report, the Haswell-E chips are expected to make their debut around Q3 2014, so sorry, we've still got a long wait ahead.

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    hrhuffnpuff , December 16, 2013 6:33 AM
    Well, shit, I was hoping 2nd quarter release, as I plan on a new build for my personal PC, quite soon.
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    TEAMSWITCHER , December 16, 2013 6:40 AM
    Just buy a Haswell 4-Core processor now and be done with it. Six SATA-3 ports are more than enough for storage and even doubling the Intel core count isn't as cost effective as using multiple GPU's. Seek out the software companies that are developing solutions using CUDA or OpenCL and support them. In the long run, you'll see much better performance than handing over big money to Intel for meager gains.
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    Shneiky , December 16, 2013 6:48 AM
    Say that to my MentalRay. The content creation industry is still very CPU dependent and only few assets are computed on a GPU. It will be years before we see an OpenCL rendered with the quality of a even free MR. Sorry, but my 3D needs rendering now, if I am to survive in the long run to get to those GPU renderers.
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    wysir , December 16, 2013 7:33 AM
    Since I'm planning on this being my next major system upgrade, I'm hoping this will have USB 3.1 and nexGen SATA support as well. I have enjoyed my AMD processors in the past, but I'm just getting tired of the 990 Chipset and the fact that they are still stuck on PCIe 2.0 and there is no word of support for DDR4, USB 3.1 or any other new techs.
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    colson79 , December 16, 2013 7:36 AM
    If you need 3d rendering now then pick yourself up an 8 core Xeon.
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    Shneiky , December 16, 2013 7:53 AM
    Sure, you will give me the cash? Where I live those come for 2000-2500 euro and up depending on the MHz. Not to mention ECC is double the price of normal RAM. Maya already costs me 3000 for a license, and the same for Nuke. I will pick a 8 core 500/1000 euro CPU (with higher MHz) and Non-ECC RAM anyday then a 4000 combo.
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    carowden , December 16, 2013 8:10 AM
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    So, whats the point of 8 cores when games can't even utilize the hex cores that's currently out?


    well, you never know what games might be using in a year or two. also, computers are used for things other than games
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    cemerian , December 16, 2013 8:28 AM
    well games can already utilize 8 cores the likes of bf3(could be up to six not sure), bf4 crysis 2 and crysis 3 and there are a lot to come(all games using cryengine or frostbite will be able to utilize up to 8 cores if not more), so your argument is pointless
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    the_redmage , December 16, 2013 8:39 AM
    cant agree more with Shneiky, as a digital artist who uses Max, more cores for rendering are always to our advantage and cost/core for these vs xeon as a work station are great! I would use Xeon just for render farm personally if I had the dough. I've been itching to pull the trigger on some Ivy Bridge-E love but have been holding out on any news of Haswell-E like today... sad so far away... ugh
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    corvetteguy1994 , December 16, 2013 8:43 AM
    im will be happy with my 3770k for a long time.
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    Kewlx25 , December 16, 2013 8:44 AM
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    well games can already utilize 8 cores the likes of bf3(could be up to six not sure), bf4 crysis 2 and crysis 3 and there are a lot to come(all games using cryengine or frostbite will be able to utilize up to 8 cores if not more), so your argument is pointless


    Adding to what you said.

    According to DICE, BF4 can use between 90% and 95% of 8 cores. I assume it would still benefit up to 16 cores, just not as much. It's also possible that different parts of the game engine scales with CPU cores, so you might be able to increase certain qualities in game with negligible performance hit assuming you have enough cores to crunch it.
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    wdmfiber , December 16, 2013 8:54 AM
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    So, whats the point of 8 cores when games can't even utilize the hex cores that's currently out?

    That is going to be a "power house" of a CPU! It's not for gaming; (incl hyperthreading) 16 threads!! But even that is an understatement, as it will be using Intel latest architecture and likely no integrated graphics! Careful of core count, as AMD "marketing" has made it meaningless garbage. But this CPU appears to be the real deal.

    Although, I'll gue$$ the retail price will be no "deal". Power users and enthusiasts...
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    vmem , December 16, 2013 9:24 AM
    i'm hoping these are underclocked engineering samples... was hoping for stock clocks to be around 3.4 ghz or higher >.<
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    hannibal , December 16, 2013 10:59 AM
    It is very unlikely that they can get very high clock rates. They could be guite similar than we have in haswell, now maybe a little bit less, because there are more cores in there. It is still very good prosessor for CPU intensive jobs!

    Interesting to see if there is a GPU core in these? Any information about it?

    The most important thing seems to be the new chip set. X99 seems to have some reall oomph to back up CPU and GPU and a guite big SSD farm!
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    danwat1234 , December 16, 2013 1:49 PM
    Single core performance is way more important than more cores in the consumer space. 10% improvement clock for clock year after year is not impressive at all. A 5 year old Core 2 Duo Penryn CPU is still a bit over half the speed of a Haswell CPU clock for clock.
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    jhatfie , December 16, 2013 2:01 PM
    I was going to wait, but some of the good deals around will keep me occupied at least until next years Christmas sale season.

    4770k for $270, MSI Z87-GD65 for $125, 16GB G-Skill 2400 for $120. Upgrade cost me $140 after selling my 2600k, mobo, ram that I had been rocking for almost two years. Can't complain.
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    leo2kp , December 16, 2013 2:45 PM
    This will replace my i7 970!
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    thunderdan602 , December 16, 2013 5:21 PM
    Price drops on the current crop?
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    derek2006 , December 16, 2013 5:29 PM
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    well games can already utilize 8 cores the likes of bf3(could be up to six not sure), bf4 crysis 2 and crysis 3 and there are a lot to come(all games using cryengine or frostbite will be able to utilize up to 8 cores if not more), so your argument is pointless


    Adding to what you said.

    According to DICE, BF4 can use between 90% and 95% of 8 cores. I assume it would still benefit up to 16 cores, just not as much. It's also possible that different parts of the game engine scales with CPU cores, so you might be able to increase certain qualities in game with negligible performance hit assuming you have enough cores to crunch it.




    I have an i7-3770k and while in game, I rarely see BF4 cpu utilization above 50%. Typically it hovers around 40%.

    However, during map loading, CPU usage can hit 90-95% for a bit. This suggests BF4 can only use more than 4 cores in special circumstances.

    It doesn't seem likely that additional cores will enhance the gameplay experience.
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